The word JUWES

[curious4]

Mind you, in the photo from 1975 there appears to be a step up into the passage. The message was written on the jamb ie the rounded brick in the entrance. If the dado was measured from the inside passage, it would explain the discrepancy.

Presuming the writer was standing on the street.

C4

[SirJohnFalstaff]

Hi Lynn,

This is from Chris George's dissertation:

On 16 October, two weeks after the "Double Event," D'Onston wrote to the City of London Police from "50, Currie Wards, The London Hospital E." He gave it as his opinion that the writer of the Goulston Street graffito was a Frenchman and that the word "Juwes" was actually "Juives"--French for "Jews"--and that the police missed the dot over the "i" while shining their lamps on the wording. (In admitting in a later article that "Juives" was actually the feminine form of the term, D'Onston stood by a statement he made in the letter that the French were "notoriously the worst linguists in the world.")

Also Pall Mall Gazette, December 1st.
In Jack the Ripper and the London Press, the anonymous article is attributed to Stead.

[Howard Brown]

Sir John:

You mentioned a bit of CG's dissertation:

On 16 October, two weeks after the "Double Event," D'Onston wrote to the City of London Police from "50, Currie Wards, The London Hospital E." He gave it as his opinion that the writer of the Goulston Street graffito was a Frenchman.

Actually, D'Onston was mistaken about the location of the GSG. In the December 1st, PMG article, he erroneously placed it in Mitre Square.

[The Good Michael]

I believe the spelling was "Jewes" which actually was a correct spelling of the plural and especially in literature, though archaic. If it was transcribed as "Juwes" it may have been the ignorance of Halse copying hastily that made it so.

Mike

[Michael W Richards]

Also Pall Mall Gazette, December 1st.
In Jack the Ripper and the London Press, the anonymous article is attributed to Stead.

Im fairly certain Vasiliev was fluent in French. Just a footnote.

[Bridewell]

I believe the spelling was "Jewes" which actually was a correct spelling of the plural and especially in literature, though archaic. If it was transcribed as "Juwes" it may have been the ignorance of Halse copying hastily that made it so.

Mike

If the 'good schoolboy hand' is used there are several words (or alleged words) which would look very similar: Juewes, Jewes, Juwes, Juives, even Juries (which were all male at the time).

I suspect you're right though with 'Jewes' as the writer's intention. I don't see someone who can spell 'nothing' correctly, making an error of the magnitude of Juwes, Juewes, or Juews.

[Errata]

Just had a start when I was reading a hastily scribbled note by my doctor father that read "Pick up forms from Dr. Juwes"

It's Dr. Jones.

Obviously the Jones' are the ones who will not be blamed for nothing. Having to keep up with them all the time. Those bastards.

[Shaggyrand]

Obviously the Jones' are the ones who will not be blamed for nothing. Having to keep up with them all the time. Those bastards.

The Jones' have no time for love, especially the doctors in that family tree. So... Jack was a jilted suiter of a Jones!

[The Good Michael]

It may have been "jujubes" always getting blamed for tooth decay and cavities.

Mike

[GUT]

It may have been "jujubes" always getting blamed for tooth decay and cavities.

Mike

"The jubes are the sweets that won't be blamed for nothing"

[SuspectZero]

What if Juwes was a reference to the earlier encounter with the 3 men outside the Socialist Club? If the spelling of Juwes was deliberate and not just a spelling error then what if the killer was trying to say that if he hadn't been interrupted by them, there would have only just been Stride?
Just a thought...

[drstrange169]

Which three men?

[GUT]

What if Juwes was a reference to the earlier encounter with the 3 men outside the Socialist Club? If the spelling of Juwes was deliberate and not just a spelling error then what if the killer was trying to say that if he hadn't been interrupted by them, there would have only just been Stride?
Just a thought...

Wouldn't he need to be VERY well educated to make such a link.

But if he was disturbed, wasn't it by just one man, not three.

[SuspectZero]

Which three men?

Schwartz and the other 2 men who were there. One of them yelled Lipski.

[SuspectZero]

Wouldn't he need to be VERY well educated to make such a link.

But if he was disturbed, wasn't it by just one man, not three.

He might have been disturbed by 1 but saw the others on leaving. As for his education - we really don't know anything about that. Again, just a thought...