The meaning of the GSG wording

[Heinrich]

Hi Wicker
The grafitti was big enough to be seen by the police at the time who also thought it was written by the killer who left the bloody apron. ...

Why do you think the police were of the opinion that the killer left the chalked message, Abby?

[Abby Normal]

Why do you think the police were of the opinion that the killer left the chalked message, Abby?

Because they said they were

[Malcolm X]

the piece of apron left there has no meaning if the graffito isn't there too, the killer would thus be better off taking the apron home and sending it to the police instead, with a similar message.

but you have to ask yourself, where the hell did JTR get the chalk from, on a cold damp evening and in pitch blackness !

[Heinrich]

Because they said they were

Could you provide the link please, Abby?

[Monty]

The only reference to a belief the killer wrote the wall writing was made in a report by Abberlines successor, Henry Moore.

Moore wrote, in one of the final reports in the file, that the killer had written it.

Other than that, there is no other reference on the file expressing the belief that Eddowes killer or Jack the Ripper was responsible for it.

Monty

[Heinrich]

The only reference to a belief the killer wrote the wall writing was made in a report by Abberlines successor, Henry Moore.
Moore wrote, in one of the final reports in the file, that the killer had written it.
Other than that, there is no other reference on the file expressing the belief that Eddowes killer or Jack the Ripper was responsible for it.

Not much to go on.
Thanks, Monty.

[Abby Normal]

-The PC who discovered them made the conection
-several high ranking police/ officials thought it was written by a jew boasting of the crime
-Abberline corrected them saying it was more likely someone trying to cast blame on a jew
-Warren thought it was incriminating enough to have it erased for fear of a riot against the jews
-Warren was heavily critisized for erasing a clue

The police thought there was a good chance it was written by the killer who left the apron. Its the only reason why we even know about the graffiti and are discussing it.

And the reason for starting this thread was to assume it was written by the killer and what did its cryptic message mean.

So please lets stay on topic (me included-sorry)or start a new thread on whether or not you think it was written by the killer.

[Monty]

The only reason Long saw it was because he was looking for blodd splatter. He never alluded to a connection, merely reported its location.

Several High rankers commented upon the writing as from the killer in books and news reports. Not one mentions a connection in any official report other than Moore.

Warren never stated a connection. The reason he had it removed was the possible implication and assumption made by others. He erased it due o public order implications

Warren was heavily cricitised for removing possible evidence/clue. It has never been ascertained.

The Police would have investigated it not because they certainly though it was a clue, but rather because of a possibility it was a clue. At no stage during the initial investigation do they declare the killer wrote it. Only Moore, years later (and who was not at the scene) states the killer wrote it.

We are fully aware of the thread and its title, however to state catagorically the Police believed the writing was created by Jack is misleading. For every high ranking official who stated Jack wrote it there is a middle ranking, and ground level PCs (including those who worked on the case first hand) who state the opposite.

Monty

[Tom_Wescott]

The only reference to a belief the killer wrote the wall writing was made in a report by Abberlines successor, Henry Moore.

This is not true at all.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Tom_Wescott]

but you have to ask yourself, where the hell did JTR get the chalk from, on a cold damp evening and in pitch blackness !

Uh...his house before he left? That's not really a tough one, Malcolm. LOL.

Could you provide the link please, Abby?

How do you know you're in the 21st century? People ask for links instead of sources.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Heinrich]

...
And the reason for starting this thread was to assume it was written by the killer and what did its cryptic message mean. ...

So only those who believe that the killer wrote the message are supposed to be posting in this thread regardless of no substantiated documentation?

I'll buzz-off then.

[Monty]

This is not true at all.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Apologies, it seems I'm in error.

Enlighten me Tom.

Monty

[Malcolm X]

Uh...his house before he left? That's not really a tough one, Malcolm. LOL.



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Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

EXACTLY

also, maybe the writing was small because there wasn't much room, i cant remember what the photo of this entrance looks like, ( i've seen it) but i'm pretty sure there's no room for 4ft letters

[Abby Normal]

The only reason Long saw it was because he was looking for blodd splatter. He never alluded to a connection, merely reported its location.

Several High rankers commented upon the writing as from the killer in books and news reports. Not one mentions a connection in any official report other than Moore.

Warren never stated a connection. The reason he had it removed was the possible implication and assumption made by others. He erased it due o public order implications

Warren was heavily cricitised for removing possible evidence/clue. It has never been ascertained.

The Police would have investigated it not because they certainly though it was a clue, but rather because of a possibility it was a clue. At no stage during the initial investigation do they declare the killer wrote it. Only Moore, years later (and who was not at the scene) states the killer wrote it.

We are fully aware of the thread and its title, however to state catagorically the Police believed the writing was created by Jack is misleading. For every high ranking official who stated Jack wrote it there is a middle ranking, and ground level PCs (including those who worked on the case first hand) who state the opposite.

Monty

Hi Monty
Fair enough.

But can i ask you-IF it was written by the killer (and we can at least agree that it is possible) what do you think it meant?

[Abby Normal]

So only those who believe that the killer wrote the message are supposed to be posting in this thread regardless of no substantiated documentation?

I'll buzz-off then.

Hi Heinrich
No. Absolutely not. Even if you dont beleive it was written by the killer, I ask you to assume it was and what the heck did it mean?