The GSG - Did Jack write it? POLL

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  • Herlock Sholmes
    Commissioner
    • May 2017
    • 21818

    #3586
    Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post

    Tom Wescott suggested that a while back, not sure if he also put it into any published works of his as well. I also dont think that its probable, any more that the "Juives" idea was. I think taking the find as something that was placed, not just discarded, one has to consider the apron section and the writing as something to be taken together to make whatever message he intended. The apron section needs no explanation, it show clearly that the Mitre Square killer was there. The message, if in concert with the apron, despite being vague, might be the only communication from a killer of one of the Canonicals. Thats enough reason to have taken an image I think, and I would have been delighted to have a chance to see that and the Lusk letter together to compare.


    I finished reading Tom’s Confidential on Friday and the suggestion is in there Michael.

    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • DJA
      *
      • May 2015
      • 4700

      #3587
      Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
      i still say its jutes.
      Agreed. A Juwesh ones.
      Last edited by DJA; 07-13-2019, 09:06 PM.

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      • Darryl Kenyon
        Inspector
        • Nov 2014
        • 1237

        #3588
        The Jutes were a Germanic/Scandanavian people who invaded, along with the more famous Angles and Saxons, [and settled] in Southern England around 500 AD.

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        • DJA
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          • May 2015
          • 4700

          #3589
          Particularly in Kent during The Migration Period. More late 4th century.

          They had earlier acted as mercenaries for the Romans.

          I carry Danish blood and live in Oz.

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          • Sam Flynn
            Casebook Supporter
            • Feb 2008
            • 13322

            #3590
            Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View Post
            The Jutes were a Germanic/Scandanavian people who invaded, along with the more famous Angles and Saxons, [and settled] in Southern England around 500 AD.
            If the GSG was complaining about the Jutes, whoever wrote it must have had a massive chip on his shoulder
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • Herlock Sholmes
              Commissioner
              • May 2017
              • 21818

              #3591
              Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

              If the GSG was complaining about the Jutes, whoever wrote it must have had a massive chip on his shoulder
              They knew how to hold a grudge in those days Sam
              Regards

              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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              • Wickerman
                Commissioner
                • Oct 2008
                • 14864

                #3592
                Originally posted by DJA View Post
                Particularly in Kent during The Migration Period. More late 4th century.

                They had earlier acted as mercenaries for the Romans.

                I carry Danish blood and live in Oz.
                Why do you carry Danish blood, isn't it available in Oz?
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • DJA
                  *
                  • May 2015
                  • 4700

                  #3593
                  Should be sacked. The whole lot of you.

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                  • Darryl Kenyon
                    Inspector
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 1237

                    #3594
                    Well, Kate had been hop picking in Kent, the Jutes settled mainly in Kent. She said she thought she knew who the killer was, perhaps she got her info while in Kent. She confronts the killer, he has to kill her so hence the message The Jutes are the men etc Simples

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                    • Jmorty
                      Cadet
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 2

                      #3595
                      I lean towards the view that the GSG was not written by Jack; I think he quickly popped into a concealed area to clean himself off a bit, probably not even noticing the graffito, and dashed off. However, I'd say I'm only 60% on this, for the following reason.

                      Anti-Semitism is a pretty common finding in those with mental illness. As Martin Amis has amusingly said, schizophrenics often have a pentagram of interests, which may include things as various as Mick Jagger or lightbulbs, but a commonality is the presence of anti-Semitism. Combined with the frequency of anti-Semitism in the press in the years preceding the killings, perhaps a switch flicked in Jack's mind in the summer of '88, and his Jew hatred manifested in the murders. As has been mentioned before, the killing of Liz Stride outside a Jewish club the same evening bolsters the link.

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                      • Robert St Devil
                        Inspector
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 1025

                        #3596
                        Originally posted by Jmorty View Post
                        I lean towards the view that the GSG was not written by Jack; I think he quickly popped into a concealed area to clean himself off a bit, probably not even noticing the graffito, and dashed off. However, I'd say I'm only 60% on this, for the following reason.

                        Anti-Semitism is a pretty common finding in those with mental illness. As Martin Amis has amusingly said, schizophrenics often have a pentagram of interests, which may include things as various as Mick Jagger or lightbulbs, but a commonality is the presence of anti-Semitism. Combined with the frequency of anti-Semitism in the press in the years preceding the killings, perhaps a switch flicked in Jack's mind in the summer of '88, and his Jew hatred manifested in the murders. As has been mentioned before, the killing of Liz Stride outside a Jewish club the same evening bolsters the link.

                        Found this map of the Jewish population by neighborhood percentile in the East End by 1899, thought it provided an interesting overlay with the murder sites
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                        there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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                        • Sam Flynn
                          Casebook Supporter
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 13322

                          #3597
                          There's a larger, "zoomable", hi-res image of Arkell's Jewish East London map at the British Library website:

                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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