The GSG - Did Jack write it? POLL

[Sam Flynn]

Rubbish, if you were carrying out a murder, and you saw and heard someone coming you would not stop to cut a piece of material from an apron

You might if you'd inadvertently got a handful of $hite.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Mitre square to Butchers row 1.5 miles , then back to Goulston st 1.2 miles just to drop an apron ?? long way to carry a bloody apron that now serves no purpose except that its just a piece of trash now, that he could have thrown away anywhere along the way . Nahhhh

It’s strange that you’re knocking Harry’s suggestion as it doesn’t discount the fact that the graffito might have been written by the ripper? In fact if he had gone to a bolt holt to deposit the body parts he’d have needed a very strong reason to go back out to just dump the cloth when he could have burnt it at home or simply disposed of it in some far less risky way. And the only reason that I can think of is to signpost the graffito.

We know that Trevor reckons that no body parts were taken from the crime scene but most appear to disagree with him. And so if the killer left Mitre Square carrying body parts it’s likely that he’d have used something like a piece of cloth. If that cloth was part of Catherine’s apron, and of course we can’t say that for certain, then he’d hardly have been likely to have dumped the cloth and kept the parts in his pocket so it’s a possibility that he went somewhere to get rid of the parts first.

[Joshua Rogan]

Looking at a map of Victorian Whitechapel there seems to be a tunnel along Whitechapel High Street starting at one end near Goulston St. Does anyone know if this tunnel was a public walkway?
Regards Darryl

It's probably the underground railway line which ran beneath Whitechapel Road.

[Abby Normal]

The most sensible explanation is he cut the apron to sign the graffiti. He wouldn’t need to waste time to cut a piece off if he got his hands dirty, he could just wipe his hands on her clothes right there.
also, it makes no sense to cut it off to carry organs in if your just going to dump it randomly somewhere.

[Harry D]

Mitre square to Butchers row 1.5 miles , then back to Goulston st 1.2 miles just to drop an apron ?? long way to carry a bloody apron that now serves no purpose except that its just a piece of trash now, that he could have thrown away anywhere along the way . Nahhhh

Actually, it would be about 0.2 miles from Butcher's Row to Goulston St.

[FISHY1118]

And the only reason that I can think of is to signpost the graffito.

which he wrote . yes /no ?

[Joshua Rogan]

Mitre square to Butchers row 1.5 miles , then back to Goulston st 1.2 miles just to drop an apron ?? long way to carry a bloody apron that now serves no purpose except that its just a piece of trash now, that he could have thrown away anywhere along the way . Nahhhh

Butcher's Row is the nickname of a section of Aldgate High Street, not far from the south end of Goulston Street. It's a lot less than 1.5 miles away [edit: as Harry (not Abby) says]

[Harry D]

Butcher's Row is the nickname of a section of Aldgate High Street, not far from the south end of Goulston Street. It's a lot less than 1.5 miles away [edit: as Abby says]

I am now Abby.

[Sam Flynn]

The most sensible explanation is he cut the apron to sign the graffiti

That's presupposing he wrote the graffito. The most obvious objective reason is that he'd dirtied his hand(s) with excrement - those faeces didn't smear themselves on Eddowes' extruded viscera.

He wouldn’t need to waste time to cut a piece off if he got his hands dirty

Less than five seconds? However long it took, it would have been the same for any option, whether organ-carrying, hand-wiping or graffiti-signing.

he could just wipe his hands on her clothes right there.

Not if he feared, or knew, that there was a policeman or two approaching. And it takes time to get that stuff off your skin, especially if you've smeared it around with your hand.

[Joshua Rogan]

I am now Abby.

Crap! Sorry (to both of you).

[Harry D]

That's presupposing he wrote the graffito.

Hello Sam,

Do you think it was coincidence it was left near the graffito?

Do you think it was originally there at 2:20am and Long missed it?

[FISHY1118]

Half a mile ? still a long way to carry a bloody apron that needs disposing of.

[Sam Flynn]

Hello Harry,

The jettisoning of the apron in the doorway of a Jewish residence with pre-existing antisemitic graffiti is much less of a coincidence than the fact that Chapman was killed in a yard which just happened to have a leather apron hanging up in it.

[Harry D]

Half a mile ? still a long way to carry a bloody apron that needs disposing of.

0.2 miles is half a mile? It's about a four minute walk.

[Darryl Kenyon]

Butcher's Row is the nickname of a section of Aldgate High Street, not far from the south end of Goulston Street. It's a lot less than 1.5 miles away [edit: as Harry (not Abby) says]

Thank you Joshua, I was wondering if it was open to the public why the ripper didn't use it. less likely to be seen etc
Regards Darryl