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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Debs.

    "From recent research I believe our LG did eventually marry in 1907 while on a short break from prison, to Elizabeth Clark, only to be sent down again the year after!"

    Some people never learn.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn, He liked to switch institutions now and again.

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  • lynn cates
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    yet again

    Hello Debs.

    "From recent research I believe our LG did eventually marry in 1907 while on a short break from prison, to Elizabeth Clark, only to be sent down again the year after!"

    Some people never learn.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
    Skinner isn't uncommon, but Le Grand is. (The Keith reference was a throwaway line, but I take the point).
    Hi Colin. Le Grand isn't too rare though, and there are even a few Charles Le Grand's knocking about.
    Legend has it 'our' LG was in prison in 81 as Christian Nelson and wasn't released until 1884.
    The Charles Le Grand who married Elizabeth Skinner was the son of Charles and Jane Le Grand and grew up to be a respectable law abiding citizen with a long and happy marriage and went on to become a bank managing clerk by 1901-whereas, our Charles le Grand was in Parkhurst for managing a bank defrauding by 1901!

    From recent research I believe our LG did eventually marry in 1907 while on a short break from prison, to Elizabeth Clark, only to be sent down again the year after!

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Colin. Thanks. As you know, Skinner is not an uncommon Brit name.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Skinner isn't uncommon, but Le Grand is. (The Keith reference was a throwaway line, but I take the point).

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  • lynn cates
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    Skinner

    Hello Colin. Thanks. As you know, Skinner is not an uncommon Brit name.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    hoax

    Hello Velma. Thanks. Well, there's motive. Get Lusk excited enough to fear for his life and leave the Mile End Vigilance Committee.

    If it were HER kidney, it would likely have been a bit more gamey after that lapse in time. Of course, it could yet prove to be a student hoax.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Dave, Colin. Thanks.

    Isn't suspense Grand?

    Seriously, when Tom returns he can provide the details. Le Grand may well be the concerned party here. And just to scare Lusk. Makes sense.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn,

    I wonder if he's the Charles Le Grand who married Elizabeth Skinner in Peckham on 19th April 1881 - and if Elizabeth has any connection with Keith?

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  • curious
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Dave, Colin. Thanks.

    Isn't suspense Grand?

    Seriously, when Tom returns he can provide the details. Le Grand may well be the concerned party here. And just to scare Lusk. Makes sense.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Wondering why you're thinking it was Le Grand . . . .

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  • lynn cates
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    scare tactic

    Hello Dave, Colin. Thanks.

    Isn't suspense Grand?

    Seriously, when Tom returns he can provide the details. Le Grand may well be the concerned party here. And just to scare Lusk. Makes sense.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Colin. Thanks.

    Don't think it was a medic; don't think it was Jack.

    Would a Dane do? Someone who knew Lusk well?

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn,

    Okay, I'll bite. Yes. More please!

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Great Dane

    Alas where's Tom when you need him?

    All the best

    Dave

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  • lynn cates
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    process of elimination

    Hello Colin. Thanks.

    Don't think it was a medic; don't think it was Jack.

    Would a Dane do? Someone who knew Lusk well?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Bridewell
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    Access To Kidneys

    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Stacy. Thanks.

    What if it were an Englishman putting on an Irish accent?

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hi Lynn,

    It would have to be an Englishman pretending to be Irish and having access to human kidneys. Medical professional or the (to you non-existent) Ripper. I don't think there can be many other possibilities. A medic would, if caught, be committing career suicide. The Ripper, on the other hand, might take the opposite view - if he existed!

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  • lynn cates
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    motive

    Hello Stacy. Thanks. Yes, quite possible. But I doubt that was the main motive
    Behind the letter.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Ayailla
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    So it is very possible, then, that this person was trying to throw suspicion onto the Irish, in the same way that suspicion could have been thrown onto the Jewish community in some other ways.

    In response to Chris George, does Patricia think that Sickert could have replicated accents? If the 'implicating the Irish' idea is possible, would Sickert have had a reason for that?

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