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  • Steven Russell
    Sergeant
    • Mar 2010
    • 650

    #241
    Thanks, Lynn. I look forward to hearing of any new developments. Pun intended.

    Best wishes,
    Steve.
    Last edited by Steven Russell; 11-03-2011, 07:19 PM.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #242
      flash

      Hello Steven. Yes, nice pun. I thought it was a flash of brilliance.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Steven Russell
        Sergeant
        • Mar 2010
        • 650

        #243
        Nice. Better stop now before we start getting negative comments.

        Best wishes,
        Steve.

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #244
          last time

          Hello Steven. Agreed. We'd better shutter down now.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • mariab
            Superintendent
            • Jun 2010
            • 2977

            #245
            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
            I also think you are correct that the faded copy's folds match the envelope. I am curious, however, that those folds were not reproduced on the other copy. Too bad that I am not a photography expert.
            However, I do have some photography students in my online classes. Perhaps I can chat them up for advice?
            Maybe the second photo was a picture shot of another photo, with the edges missing, so no folds visible?
            Lynn, Rob Clack is a photography expert.
            Best regards,
            Maria

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            • Tom_Wescott
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 7001

              #246
              Originally posted by lynn cates
              Hello Steven. Agreed. We'd better shutter down now.
              Just be careful when you're throwing in the towel that it doesn't land under an unrelated chalked message, or I'm liable to jump to the wrong conclusion.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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              • Stewart P Evans
                Superintendent
                • Apr 2008
                • 2994

                #247
                Dear Boss Letter

                The original 'Dear Boss' letter has deteriorated rather badly over the years. However, there is an 1888 police colour facsimile of the letter preserved at Kew. This is so good that when they did a display of letters a few years back the facsimile was displayed as the original. The original, however, was displayed at the fairly recent Docklands Museum East End exhibition.

                As we all know the original letter was missing for many years and was anonymously returned to New Scotland Yard in 1987. When passed on to the Public Record Office the original letter went to their conservation department for preservation. Unfortunately they used invasive methods of preservation and ended up doing more harm than good, resulting in an accelerated deterioration of the letter. I photographed the original around 2000 when writing Letters From Hell.

                In order to see what the letter looked like in 1987, when returned, we have only to look at the black and white photographs of it that were taken at that time. These I reproduce below.

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                Last edited by Stewart P Evans; 11-04-2011, 11:10 AM.
                SPE

                Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                • Stewart P Evans
                  Superintendent
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2994

                  #248
                  Envelope

                  Below is the original envelope as photographed in 1987. From this and the above photographs it should be fairly obvious that the original sender of the letter had merely folded it in four to place it into the envelope for posting. The actual letter measures seven inches wide by nine inches long.

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                  SPE

                  Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                  • mariab
                    Superintendent
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2977

                    #249
                    Thank you so much, Mr. Evans. These are good quality black and white photos. (Apart from the post scriptum, which looks like in a different ink?)
                    Best regards,
                    Maria

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                    • lynn cates
                      Commisioner
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13841

                      #250
                      conclusion

                      Hello Tom. Minimalist? (heh-heh)

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • lynn cates
                        Commisioner
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13841

                        #251
                        Rob

                        Hello Maria. Thanks. Perhaps he will pop round to the thread and comment.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #252
                          question

                          Hello Mr. Evans. Thanks for this.

                          Can you recall the original, before being photographed? If so, do you recall whether:

                          1. The left margin were very straight?

                          2. The left margin shifted left?

                          3. The left margin shifted right?

                          Thanks again.

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • mariab
                            Superintendent
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2977

                            #253
                            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                            Hello Maria. Thanks. Perhaps he will pop round to the thread and comment.
                            As a matter of fact, I'm about to email him back.
                            (Just entered my apartment in Berlin and gotta run to the post office, after a more or less sleepless night.)

                            Lynn, why are the margins important to you?
                            In the post scriptum I see a different ink apart from obvious haste in the handwriting, but I'm sleepless and my eyes hurt (only slept on the plane for a couple hours, turbulence and all).
                            Last edited by mariab; 11-04-2011, 01:35 PM.
                            Best regards,
                            Maria

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                            • lynn cates
                              Commisioner
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 13841

                              #254
                              identity

                              Hello Maria. Margin--along with slope and slant--are the best indicators of the writer's identity. They are least likely to be forged for the reasons I articulated in some previous posts.

                              Get some sleep.

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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                              • Stewart P Evans
                                Superintendent
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 2994

                                #255
                                Not Quite Sure

                                Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                                Hello Mr. Evans. Thanks for this.
                                Can you recall the original, before being photographed? If so, do you recall whether:
                                1. The left margin were very straight?
                                2. The left margin shifted left?
                                3. The left margin shifted right?
                                Thanks again.
                                Cheers.
                                LC
                                I'm not quite sure what you mean. The photographs are of the full letter exactly as it was returned to New Scotland Yard. Ergo the margins are exactly as they were and are in the original letter. What do you mean by 'shifting margins'?
                                SPE

                                Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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