The new Wall Writing photo discovery – a joint statement

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  • Bridewell
    Commissioner
    • Apr 2011
    • 4038

    #136
    True

    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    City PC Donald Rumbelow, Simon.

    He told me that's how he was told to wear his helmet when he was a young Bobby.

    Monty
    It's also how I was told to wear mine. There should be an inch between the tip of the helmet and the tip of the nose. The shape of a traditional police helmet is such that it can only be securely worn in this way. The chinstrap should also be on the chin, never under it (to reduce the risk of strangulation by an attacker during an attack from the rear). I would have attached a photo of David Tennant as Dixon of Dock Green (showing how not to do it!), but there are copyright considerations.


    Regards, Bridewell.
    Last edited by Bridewell; 05-18-2012, 05:23 PM.
    I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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    • fireskin
      Cadet
      • May 2012
      • 13

      #137
      Originally posted by Monty View Post
      To be honest Colin,

      The Watkins actor got it wrong.

      Hold your thumb knuckle at the tip of your nose, and where the tip of your thumb finishes, that's where the helmet peak should sit.

      However this guy didn't do that. Apparently actors like to get their faces seen.

      Monty
      As a professional actress, I can tell you, it's not the actors fault most of the time. It's the director not knowing what that small piece is supposed to look like and so telling the actor to wear it differently. Or it's the lighting guy saying "when it's forward like that, it puts shadows on your face and that doesn't work." Or the Director of Photography saying "That helmet is in the way of the shot of this other actor, fudge it to the top of your head"...

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      • Jason
        Detective
        • Dec 2009
        • 382

        #138
        any updates on this new wall writing photo ? or are we still where we were ?

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        • Monty
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 5414

          #139
          Things are progressing Jason,

          Albeit slowly.

          One of the issues is the availability of those concerned. Some of the staff work part time hours and this, coupled with leave, illness and the recent Jubilee celebrations have bogged things down a little.

          Also, on top of that, further avenues have opened up which are, at the moment, being explored.

          Believe me, Rob and I are still on this.

          Monty
          Monty

          https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

          Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

          http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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          • Bridewell
            Commissioner
            • Apr 2011
            • 4038

            #140
            Helmets

            Originally posted by fireskin View Post
            As a professional actress, I can tell you, it's not the actors fault most of the time. It's the director not knowing what that small piece is supposed to look like and so telling the actor to wear it differently. Or it's the lighting guy saying "when it's forward like that, it puts shadows on your face and that doesn't work." Or the Director of Photography saying "That helmet is in the way of the shot of this other actor, fudge it to the top of your head"...

            Hi Fireskin,

            I'm sure you're right but it certainly removes the realism from the production. Why do all these directors want their actors to look like people in fancy dress? Why don't they want them to look like police officers? Agatha Christie productions seem particularly prone to this - especially the Poirot TV series with David Suchet. Sorry. A bit off topic there, but I guess that's inevitable until something of relevance comes along.

            Regards, Bridewell.
            I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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            • Jason
              Detective
              • Dec 2009
              • 382

              #141
              Originally posted by Monty View Post
              Things are progressing Jason,

              Albeit slowly.

              One of the issues is the availability of those concerned. Some of the staff work part time hours and this, coupled with leave, illness and the recent Jubilee celebrations have bogged things down a little.

              Also, on top of that, further avenues have opened up which are, at the moment, being explored.

              Believe me, Rob and I are still on this.

              Monty
              thanks Monty, didnt want to miss anything !

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              • Jason
                Detective
                • Dec 2009
                • 382

                #142
                Originally posted by Jason View Post
                thanks Monty, didnt want to miss anything !
                are we any further on this ?

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                • Monty
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5414

                  #143
                  Yes Jason,

                  We are.

                  Monty
                  Monty

                  https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                  Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                  http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                  • Stephen Thomas
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1728

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Monty View Post

                    Hold your thumb knuckle at the tip of your nose, and where the tip of your thumb finishes, that's where the helmet peak should sit.
                    Ah, that's why British policemen tend to look like wallies.
                    allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                    • Jason
                      Detective
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 382

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Monty View Post
                      Yes Jason,

                      We are.

                      Monty
                      care to say how much further ?

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                      • Monty
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5414

                        #146
                        Jason


                        "Quote:
                        Originally Posted by Adam Wood

                        You won't, Trevor. These photographs, along with Neil and Rob's research, will appear in Ripperologist 127, August 2012.

                        Adam"

                        Monty
                        Monty

                        https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                        • Tom_Wescott
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6996

                          #147
                          Ripperologist has been running hot this year. I wouldn't envy the editors if they chose to bring back the Beadle award for 2012 and have only one winner.

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • AdamNeilWood
                            Detective
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 290

                            #148
                            Hello Tom,

                            Thanks for the kind words - glad you're enjoying the mag over the past few issues.

                            We've been fortunate in that there have been a large number of exceptional articles submitted recently, and this is set to continue with our next issue - see the Rip thread for details.

                            The door is always open for something form yourself, you know that!

                            All the best
                            Adam

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                            • Bridewell
                              Commissioner
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 4038

                              #149
                              Wallies

                              Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
                              Ah, that's why British policemen tend to look like wallies.
                              They look like wallies when they don't wear their helmets properly, not when they do. Monty's description of the correct way to wear the helmet is spot-on.

                              Regards, Bridewell.
                              I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                              • Robert
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5163

                                #150
                                British policemen never look like wallies.

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