Eddowes Apron Style - Confused

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  • Wickerman
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2008
    • 14865

    #16
    Originally posted by BooksbyBJThompson View Post

    Hi c.d.,

    Tom Westcott told me one of the strings of that top apron was still around her neck.

    So, she hadn't removed it before the attack.
    Thats correct, the top section was found among her clothes as they were being removed by the doctor.

    "My attention was called to the apron – It was the corner of the apron with a string attached - The blood spots were of recent origin . . .
    . . . . I have seen a portion of an apron produced by Dr Phillips and stated to have been found in Goulstone Street It is impossible to say it is human blood I fitted the piece of apron which had a new piece of material on it which had been evidently sewn on to the piece I have – The seams of the borders of the two actually corresponding – Some blood and apparently faecal matter was found on the portion found in Goulstone Street."
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • The Rookie Detective
      Chief Inspector
      • Apr 2019
      • 1899

      #17
      Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

      Thats correct, the top section was found among her clothes as they were being removed by the doctor.

      "My attention was called to the apron – It was the corner of the apron with a string attached - The blood spots were of recent origin . . .
      . . . . I have seen a portion of an apron produced by Dr Phillips and stated to have been found in Goulstone Street It is impossible to say it is human blood I fitted the piece of apron which had a new piece of material on it which had been evidently sewn on to the piece I have – The seams of the borders of the two actually corresponding – Some blood and apparently faecal matter was found on the portion found in Goulstone Street."
      The deposit of faecal matter suggests that the piece of apron was cut off from the lower section of apron and not from the top, or that the killer wiped his knife on the apron piece before dropping it under the chalked message.
      Last edited by The Rookie Detective; 06-16-2025, 07:15 AM.
      "Great minds, don't think alike"

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      • BooksbyBJThompson
        Detective
        • Sep 2022
        • 158

        #18
        Yes, I heard again from Tom Wescott. The bottom was removed, leaving the top portion still around the neck.

        Here is what Tom said in a DM to me

        "He took the bottom portion of the apron, not the top portion, which is why it may have still been attached to her by strings around the neck. It would appear he first made a cut towards the middle of the apron (assuming this was the cut seen in the other garments) and then cut the apron off by sawing each way until the portion was detached and he was able to access the abdomen. As I mentioned before, the purpose of the apron wasn't to wipe his hands or knife, it was removed to allow access to the abdomen. He probably set it aside near the head and when he threw the bloody and feces laden intestines over the shoulder, they came in contact with a corner of the apron. What's interesting was his choice to take the apron with him when he left."
        "We do not remember days, we remember moments." ~ Cesare Pavese

        Cheers!

        Books by BJ Thompson
        Author - www.booksbybjthompson.com
        Email - barbara@booksbybjthompson.com

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        • BooksbyBJThompson
          Detective
          • Sep 2022
          • 158

          #19
          I finally see how it went with Tom's help.
          "We do not remember days, we remember moments." ~ Cesare Pavese

          Cheers!

          Books by BJ Thompson
          Author - www.booksbybjthompson.com
          Email - barbara@booksbybjthompson.com

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