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  • 1970s UK Bonfire Murder, do you remember this?

    I would rather like to face a very old ghost of mine.

    When I was little there was a very unpleasant murder on the news that really upset and scared me. It must have been around 1975-77, and possibly in the Midlands. I remember it as being near to where I lived (Bucks/Beds border) but that may have just been because it scared me.

    As best I remember it, a young girl was on her way to a party one evening when she was attacked, stripped, and tied up in a bonfire, and burnt to death.

    The murderer was on the loose for a few weeks, during which my friends and I were all very scared. This was the first news story that I had really taken in and been affected by. I was around 8 years old at the time.

    Then one night, after I had gone to bed, my father called me down so I could watch the news report that they had caught the killer.

    It is not that this story really haunted me or anything, I grew up to be rather interested in true crime (hey, I am posting on Ripper boards!). But I would like to read about the crime as an adult simply so I can dismiss the very exaggerated "bogey man" version that I have in my head from my childhood.

    Does anyone know more about this crime, please? I may have got some of the facts wrong. This was a massive thing to an 8 year old with an over excited imagination and I thought about it for quite a few years, no doubt changing things in my head.

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    Hi Azarna

    The murder you describe doesn't appear in a list of unsolved UK murders -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...United_Kingdom

    Chris
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    • #3
      Try taking a look through http://www.blackkalendar.nl
      I don't know how much info they will have on it but it should at least be able to get you started if you can find it.
      I’m often irrelevant. It confuses people.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
        Hi Azarna

        The murder you describe doesn't appear in a list of unsolved UK murders -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...United_Kingdom

        Chris
        But Azarna said her dad called her down to watch a news report about the killer being caught.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #5
          Yes. You are correct. Thanks for that clarification, G. Hopefully someone can dig up the information on the case.

          Best regards

          Chris
          Christopher T. George
          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
          just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
          For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
          RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
            Yes. You are correct. Thanks for that clarification, G. Hopefully someone can dig up the information on the case.

            Best regards

            Chris
            Certainly nit one I heard of down here.

            Sounds awful though.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • #7
              You'd think a bonfire near houses would have attracted spectators, unless the girl was transported to a more remote location. Wonder whether it was on Bonfire night itself, which would narrow the dates down? I haven't heard of this awful murder either.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
                Hi Azarna

                The murder you describe doesn't appear in a list of unsolved UK murders -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...United_Kingdom

                Chris
                That's not a comprehensive list of every unsolved murder in the UK. There are many local murders that don't receive national media coverage. This could be one such example.

                Also, Azarna says in their opening post that the perpetrator was caught.

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                • #9
                  This is why I wanted to run it past you guys, because I know how knowledgeable the forum members are.

                  Sadly my father died last year, so I can't ask him if he remembers, and my mother has a few patches in her memory following an illness, and has no recollection of this at all.

                  It sounds like such a horrendous crime. I have searched for various things and found nothing close to it. I often watch true crime documentaries and would assume that something this horrible would have featured on one by now.

                  Perhaps my schoolfriends and I embellished it over time, as 8 year olds tend to do

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                  • #10
                    I'm an American librarian. The best way to tackle this is to visit your local library and see if they keep newspapers going back to the Seventies, either in print or online. Local or regional news sources may be the best place to start searching for this. If no luck with your own town's papers, broaden to the county or district. Search with terms like "murder" "bonfire" and try the years in the 1970s until you hit something.
                    Let me know if you need more help!
                    Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                    • #11
                      That's the problem with trying to remember something from 40 odd years ago, when you were still a kid at the time. It could be that the girl was murdered going to a party on bonfire night but the stuff about her being stripped and tied to a bonfire does sound like it could've been a wild exaggeration.

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                      • #12
                        Harry, I think you might be right.

                        It is very possible that there was a murder, which I mentioned at school, then one of my friends added "and she was put in a bonfire!" and so on. Very possible. Kids are pretty horrible like that at 8.

                        I am pretty hot with Google, as a rule, and I am pretty sure that such a nasty murder would be findable online.

                        Perhaps my childhood bogey man never really existed, or at least not as I remembered. Which I guess is a very good thing.

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                        • #13
                          Hello there,

                          I can vaguely recall something like this or similar.
                          Scratching my brain. . I again may be misremembering.. that an ATTEMPT to do the above to a young girl happened around that time.
                          Again..This is a very vague memory. I could be mistaken.


                          Phil
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                          • #14
                            Could it be this one?

                            Not sure the area is right though?
                            From the Times newspaper Thursday July 31st 1975....

                            Pat
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                            • #15
                              Hi Azarna

                              From the Times and the Daily Mail, both Nov 5th 1980.

                              I have been unable to trace any murder trial.
                              Attached Files

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