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  • #31
    18000 Quid, pleeeeeeeeeeeease
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #32
      "I should think fellows with plenty of money and no brains must have been created for the good of fellows with plenty of brains and no money."
      Arthur Orton, aka Sir Roger Tichborne.

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      • #33
        Question....

        The question is....

        Is the rich bloke who bought these items going to write a 'Jack the Ripper:Case Solved' book?

        Can you imagine it....
        D.N.A. Being extracted from the whistle

        Hair samples from the truncheon

        Blood scrapings from the handcuffs

        The name of the a Ripper in the notebook!

        Amanda

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Archaic View Post
          Well, Cris, at least you have horse sense... which is more than can be said for many.

          Archaic
          And my horses taught me that... the hard way.

          When you've got more than one, learn the pecking order before you follow them into the barn to feed.

          Don't try to break a green horse when you've had a six pack (or more.)

          Wait till they exhale before you're confident that the girth is tight.

          And... even though their brain is the size of a tennis ball, they never forget a negative experience... often to your detriment if you're not careful.

          Don't tie one mare to a picket line of geldings unless you want to stay up all night.

          You can become one with each other, or he can throw, kick, bite... or whatever when he's had enough of you.

          And last... their trust in you is based entirely on what you purvey to them.

          Don't know what this has in reference to spending money stupidly, but it makes sense to horses and I found it good advice when choosing friends.
          Best Wishes,
          Hunter
          ____________________________________________

          When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888

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          • #35
            Once again it says that Watkins was carrying the whistle on the fateful night, but as far as I can see he was not. Doesn't stop it being his whistle of course.

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            • #36
              Can we at least say that it was his post-1888?

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              • #37
                It shows the continuing mystique of the Jack the Ripper name that even something as peripheral as these items bring prices far above their value. Now, if we could just find his knife...!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Archaic View Post
                  Hi guys. Well, the auction is over. Items went for over 5 times the estimate.

                  http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nor...shire-30428747

                  Was any providence ever ascertained regarding these items?

                  If they did come from his widow, would be interested to know whether his medal(s) are known to exist?


                  Have theses items from the auction ever been heard of or sold on again since?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Robert View Post
                    Once again it says that Watkins was carrying the whistle on the fateful night, but as far as I can see he was not. Doesn't stop it being his whistle of course.
                    I thought the police started carrying whistles from the end of 1884.

                    Where does it say 1889?

                    I always thought that by 1888 the police officers all carried standard issues whistles, having replaced the hand-rattles at the end of 1884


                    This whistle therefore COULD have been from his beat on the night of Eddowes murder



                    RD
                    "Great minds, don't think alike"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

                      I thought the police started carrying whistles from the end of 1884.

                      Where does it say 1889?

                      I always thought that by 1888 the police officers all carried standard issues whistles, having replaced the hand-rattles at the end of 1884


                      This whistle therefore COULD have been from his beat on the night of Eddowes murder



                      RD
                      While the Met had whistles by 1888, the City Force did not.
                      This is one reason why in Mitre Square it was George Morris , the nightwatchman, who blew his whistle, Watkins not having one.

                      Steve

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                        While the Met had whistles by 1888, the City Force did not.
                        This is one reason why in Mitre Square it was George Morris , the nightwatchman, who blew his whistle, Watkins not having one.

                        Steve
                        Ah that makes sense, thank you for clearing that up Steve. I wasn't sure about the COL police so that makes sense.

                        RD
                        "Great minds, don't think alike"

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

                          Ah that makes sense, thank you for clearing that up Steve. I wasn't sure about the COL police so that makes sense.

                          RD
                          Glad to help

                          Steve

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