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    A hypothesis, not a theory, as I do not have all of the facts yet.

    A few things I have been pondering about for over a year now.

    My number one thought: I don't subscribe to the profile that Jack The Ripper was a serial killer.

    Other thoughts: Not all of the "so called victims" were "Prostitutes" by pure definition of the word. That is not to say that they did not have to resort to prostitution from time to time. They were "Unfortunates" by pure definition.

    I think there was far more going on than met the eye. More thoughts on this later.

    A few names (by hypothesis), a the heart of the matter:
    Catharine Eddowes
    John Kelly
    Mary Jane Kelly
    George Hutchinson
    John George Littlechild

    Catharine is by far the most endearing victim to me.

    John Kelly, the man that Catharine lived with for seven years prior to her death, is nothing but a liar. That was obvious in the inquest.

    Mary Jane Kelly the enigma, as there is no real documentation of her history or existence.

    George Hutchinson, in modern society, we would now consider a "Stalker".

    John George Littlechild, Secret Branch, Metropolitan Police.


    I will stop now, and leave you to formulate what you may think is my hypothesis.
    Please let me know what you come up with. Just remember, I am not and never will be "Mainstream" in my thinking.

    Yours Truly,
    Sluggo

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    Catharine Eddowes was a socialist agent, she had an important message to give to Mary Jane Kelly, a fenian agent, but Kelly's identity wasn't confirmed by Eddowes' handler, Pearly Poll. The Secret Branch had put John Kelly on Eddowes' tail for quite a while, but Eddowes was no fool. She got herself sent to jail in the city, so she could get her new instructions from Pearly in Mitre Square. Except there was a leak and no time to prevent Eddowes in time. When the whole thing got out, Eddowes panicked, and they had to kill her. Pearly arrived late butgot part of Catharine's apron and was about to give it to McCarthy, MJK's handler, as a warning, but she was intercepted by special agent Hutchinson, Littlechild's number one man. She fled and left the apron on Goulston Street.

    The following weeks, MJK was under strict scrutiny. But she was smart and picked up the tail. She told McCarthy about it, and he sent a message to his organization and waited for orders. When the Special Branch got hold of this, they decided to send a tormentor to MJK's and make her talk, torture her, and disguise the whole thing as some perverted murder. Hutchinson stayed outside just to make sure they weren't disturbed. After that, to send the police in the wrong direction, he invented the whole astrakan (sp?) man.

    Nailed it.
    Is it progress when a cannibal uses a fork?
    - Stanislaw Jerzy Lee

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    • #3
      anachronism

      Hello Sir John. May have to rethink this. The Fenians were all but defunct by 1870.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • #4
        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
        Hello Sir John. May have to rethink this. The Fenians were all but defunct by 1870.

        Cheers.
        LC
        Helly Lynn, I was just kidding about this. I have no idea what this hypothesis might be.

        But, you might want to look into the Jubilee Plot, in 1887, and the birth of Scotland Yard Special Branch.

        Otherwise you can switch Fenians for Invincibles, or other Irish nationalist radical organizations.

        cheers.
        Is it progress when a cannibal uses a fork?
        - Stanislaw Jerzy Lee

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        • #5
          Are we to assume that being a "Mainstream" thinker is somehow inferior to being a "non-Mainstream" thinker?

          c.d.

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          • #6
            "I will stop now, and leave you to formulate what you may think is my hypothesis."


            a-b+x*y = 0 ?

            But do tell.
            Clearly the first human laws (way older and already established) spawned organized religion's morality - from which it's writers only copied/stole,ex. you cannot kill,rob,steal (forced,it started civil society).
            M. Pacana

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            • #7
              raeding list

              Hello Sir John. Thanks.

              "But, you might want to look into the Jubilee Plot, in 1887 . . ."

              Umm, that was the whole thrust of "Fenian Fire"--read four times. Excellent book. And Frank Millen was a ringer for A-man as was "Red Jim" for Blotchy.

              ". . . and the birth of Scotland Yard Special Branch."

              And that would be Bernard Porter's fine tome--read twice.

              "Otherwise you can switch Fenians for Invincibles, or other Irish nationalist radical organizations."

              Invincibles? Most were in gaol, but a good account is given by Senan Molony--read three times.

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • #8
                To All,
                I a happy that my Non-Mainstream Thinking amuses you all so much.
                Unlike Sir John, I was not kidding!

                I am done.

                Yours Truly, Sluggo

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
                  To All,
                  I a happy that my Non-Mainstream Thinking amuses you all so much.
                  Unlike Sir John, I was not kidding!

                  I am done.

                  Yours Truly, Sluggo
                  Hi Sluggo,

                  I'm not amused. Just curious. Please tell us what you believe happened. If it is really exciting it might stop Herr Pinkmoon getting bored again.

                  Carol

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                  • #10
                    I think we all have a different idea of what the 'mainstream' is. When I look at a theory or piece of research I prefer to consider how informed it is. So a better distinction might be 'informed' or 'underinformed' thinking.

                    Yours truly,

                    Tom Wescott

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                    • #11
                      research

                      Hello Tom.

                      "So a better distinction might be 'informed' or 'underinformed' thinking."

                      Absolutely. I MUCH prefer to talk to a diarist who has done the research to someone who agrees with me but merely waves the hand.

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                        Hello Tom.

                        "So a better distinction might be 'informed' or 'underinformed' thinking."

                        Absolutely. I MUCH prefer to talk to a diarist who has done the research to someone who agrees with me but merely waves the hand.

                        Cheers.
                        LC
                        Hi Lynn. Well, of course you'd say that. You're the epitome of 'mainstream' thinking.

                        Yours truly,

                        Tom Wescott

                        P.S. If a Diaryst were an informed thinker, wouldn't he then know that the diary is a hoax? Chicken and the egg.

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                        • #13
                          diarist

                          Hello Tom. Thanks.

                          Umm, is not Bob Anderson a diarist? (ahem.)

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                            Hello Sir John. May have to rethink this. The Fenians were all but defunct by 1870.

                            Cheers.
                            LC
                            Hi Lynn,

                            I'm not sure if the Fenians were "all but defunct by 1870". The first attempt to get a revolt started had failed by 1870, but they had a new set of "martyr heroes" to point to for the future ("the Manchester Martyrs", possibly Michael Barrett). There founder Stephens was still active as "the Fenian Chief" in Paris, and he lived into 1901. And the Fenians were blamed for the dynamite outrages in London in the middle 1880s.

                            Jeff

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