World Exclusive, ripper revealed?

[Lechmere]

Another shawl thread?
No Monty I am not in the least upset by it.
I know Russell Edwards a bit and he is a decent chap so far as I have been able to discern.
I tend to doubt that the evidence will be as watertight as suggested in the publicity - but you never know.

Rather more tellingly this sorry episode shines a very bright light on the nature of the majority of people involved in this subject - and it is not pretty.
It is a sorry episode not because of the book or the claims in it - but because of the shrill and ugly reactions that have resulted from it from the overwhelming majority of posters on this site.

[pinkmoon]

"Just a side note, I have met Andy and Sue Parlour several times and they are both very nice people."

Yes, I had some correspondence with Andy a few years ago. Seems like a nice bloke.

I've seen them on telly with the shawl they seemed genuine I'm I right in thinking they sold it at auction and Mr Edwards bought it.

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We apologize for stepping into the middle of this thread but there were a few key points that we felt needed to be addressed due to numerous complaints.

We ask all posters to kindly adhere to the personal attack policy. This is number one.

On another note, we find we are highly tired of the conspiracy and rumor-mongering and backstabbing that is a key staple to some, so we are going to be changing the Major Rules very soon to reflect this new reality. But everyone currently on this thread is required to follow this from here on out:

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But this backbiting, sniping, insinuation, gossip-mongering cabal crap is over.

Don't do it. Either have the ovaries to stand behind your convictions or pick up your balls and go to someone else's playground where that kind of thing is better tolerated.

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[Daisyhall1]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2747142/Did-horrors-witnessed-boy-turn-Polish-hairdresser-Jack-Ripper-As-book-says-DNA-evidence-definitively-nailed-Britain-s-infamous-serial-killer.html

It devalues their point when they call the witness Joseph LAVENDER

[pinkmoon]

the shop

I would advise you to check out Mr Edwards shop he does a great line in jack the ripper yoyos ..jacktheripperstoursandstore.com.

[Sand87]

So he was called Jack,

Where's the confusion

[GUT]

We should be looking for someone with 3 names. Don't all serial killers have three names?

He Did

Jack

The

Ripper

Three names?

[Sand87]

We should be looking for someone with 3 names. Don't all serial killers have three names?

[paul g]

Nouvel Observateur in France runs with it.
But they talk about allegations.
The comments are more than skeptical.

Now, Facebook, well, that's another story.

Lol JTR revealed on Facebook now there's a thing, never thought about the modern world and how it will spread among the social networks like Facebook Twitter etc.

[SirJohnFalstaff]

Now I wonder why the press when they knew they were going to publish this didn't take the time to speak to those that would have been able to put things in the correct perspective with regards to the shawl and Kosminski`s viability as a suspect.

We now have a situation where hundreds perhaps thousands of people around the world now believe what they have read. I guess its just a continuation of all the misleading books and documentaries they have seen and read and believed whats in them, nothing changes it seems

Nouvel Observateur in France runs with it.
But they talk about allegations.
The comments are more than skeptical.

Now, Facebook, well, that's another story.

[Rob Clack]

Egos and opinions. That's life.

[Sand87]

Incredibly ironic then that your first post offers nothing at all other than possible fuel for that fire...

Seriouisly, that's usually how lengthy forum discussions go. It's sad but true, people have few responsibilities, it's fairly annonymous, it's just the way the internet is.
It's also inevitible that a lengthy discussion will go off on tangents - this actually does happen in real life too so it isn't unique to the internet.

[Matt Spires]

I really regret that this has to be my first post on the forum as I had hoped that I'd joined a place where serious students of criminology could come together and discuss these murders, in a friendly, honest, open and constructive environment. Whilst this is evidently the case with some of the members, it seems that there are a large number of five year olds who seem to treat the place as an arena for thinly veiled abuse, mud slinging and pursuing generally counterproductive individual vendettas. Such a shame. It had all looked so promising, too.

[andy1867]

Agree it sounds flimsy, but just what would constitute definitive evidence on here?
Case solved?
No more books..outlandish or not
No more arguments...Vitriolic or humorous..

I don't think the majority on here want it solved...I don't..I like the mystery
Do you..
Honestly?

[Fisherman]

Good Point Christer!..

Hope you are well? It is pouring down here.. cats and dogs. And over the Oslo Fjord and over the border it is...?


best wishes

Phil

They threatened to have us soaked again, but nothing came of it ... rather like the shawl story, I suspect!

A week ago, however, my birth town got 100 mm of rain in one day. That was memorable, not least for the insurance companies!

The best,
Fisherman