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  • Geddy2112
    Inspector
    • Dec 2015
    • 1421

    #1

    Only in the Rippersphere

    Whilst reading these boards I've come across a few words, phrases or mentions of things that I have only found in relation to Jack The Ripper. I've a few but will start off with -

    'Graffito' - I've only every heard this mentioned in relation to the Goulston Street scribbles and always used/read the the other term 'graffiti.' I'm sure during the 70s if I'd shouted on the bus going home look at that amazing Punk Graffito I'd have had my head kicked in...

    Anyone have any other examples?
    Jack the Ripper - Double Cross
  • c.d.
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 6717

    #2
    I was always under the impression that it was the UK expression versus the American expression. I could be wrong though.

    c.d.

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    • andy1867
      Detective
      • Sep 2012
      • 249

      #3
      "Ripperologist"......Like someone said on an advert
      "He;s got an "Ology"

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 23117

        #4
        Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
        Whilst reading these boards I've come across a few words, phrases or mentions of things that I have only found in relation to Jack The Ripper. I've a few but will start off with -

        'Graffito' - I've only every heard this mentioned in relation to the Goulston Street scribbles and always used/read the the other term 'graffiti.' I'm sure during the 70s if I'd shouted on the bus going home look at that amazing Punk Graffito I'd have had my head kicked in...

        Anyone have any other examples?
        It’s the singular form of the plural noun graffiti as you probably know Geddy but, like you, I’ve only ever heard it in connection with Goulston Street.
        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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        • Geddy2112
          Inspector
          • Dec 2015
          • 1421

          #5
          Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

          It’s the singular form of the plural noun graffiti as you probably know Geddy but, like you, I’ve only ever heard it in connection with Goulston Street.
          Ahem, yeah I knew that

          Just often wondered my they never said 'Goulston Street Graffiti'

          My next one, and one I've used it is "Occam's Razor." The majority of times I've seen that mentioned is in Ripper circles.
          Jack the Ripper - Double Cross

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          • Lewis C
            Inspector
            • Dec 2022
            • 1299

            #6
            I've seen "Occam's Razor" used many times outside of the Rippersphere.

            A word that I've never seen used outside of Ripper circles is "marginalia".

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            • Tom_Wescott
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 7031

              #7
              Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
              Whilst reading these boards I've come across a few words, phrases or mentions of things that I have only found in relation to Jack The Ripper. I've a few but will start off with -

              'Graffito' - I've only every heard this mentioned in relation to the Goulston Street scribbles and always used/read the the other term 'graffiti.' I'm sure during the 70s if I'd shouted on the bus going home look at that amazing Punk Graffito I'd have had my head kicked in...

              Anyone have any other examples?
              It's a real word, but it was introduced as a derogatory term by Martin Fido in his 1987 book as part of his rather sweated effort to discard the Goulston Street writing as having been written by the Ripper. He apparently believed (perhaps correctly) that his suspect, David Cohen could not read/write English. He was unaware at the time that Robert Anderson had expressed as fact (as he felt his opinions were such) that the chalk writing was the work of the Ripper. Fido also introduced the obnoxious and misleading phrase 'Canonical Five Victims' into our lexicon and several other mythos both in his book and later in A-Z. As a young man when I first got into Ripperology, the subject also introduced me to words such as 'memoranda', 'marginalia', and 'numpty' which–according to early Casebook posters–I most certainly am.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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              • PaulB
                Superintendent
                • Jun 2010
                • 2220

                #8
                Originally posted by Lewis C View Post
                I've seen "Occam's Razor" used many times outside of the Rippersphere.

                A word that I've never seen used outside of Ripper circles is "marginalia".
                I think I may have been the first to apply the word 'marginalia' to the Swanson writing back in 1988. It is often used by those referring to notes made in the margins of ancient documents such as chronicles, saints lives, and so on. These were often copied by hand and the copyist sometimes couldn't resist making an observation or sometimes expanding on what was written by the original author. It is referred to as 'marginalia'. Not wishing to lay claim to things I did not originate, but I may possibly have been the first to call Macnaghten's 'report' a 'memoranda'. It's not much fun being sentenced to the Ripperological pilloried, but at least I didn't concoct Ripperologist.

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                • PaulB
                  Superintendent
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post

                  It's a real word, but it was introduced as a derogatory term by Martin Fido in his 1987 book as part of his rather sweated effort to discard the Goulston Street writing as having been written by the Ripper. He apparently believed (perhaps correctly) that his suspect, David Cohen could not read/write English. He was unaware at the time that Robert Anderson had expressed as fact (as he felt his opinions were such) that the chalk writing was the work of the Ripper. Fido also introduced the obnoxious and misleading phrase 'Canonical Five Victims' into our lexicon and several other mythos both in his book and later in A-Z. As a young man when I first got into Ripperology, the subject also introduced me to words such as 'memoranda', 'marginalia', and 'numpty' which–according to early Casebook posters–I most certainly am.

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott
                  C'mon Tom, surely 'canonical' isn't obnoxious. It is popularly used to denote Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories, and back in the mists of time when you were in short trousers, and I, sadly, wasn't, not even in warm weather, it was generally accepted that the Ripper had five victims. I don't know of another expression that would distinguish those five from any others who may have fallen prey to Jack.

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                  • jmenges
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2250

                    #10
                    Diddles.

                    =^.^=

                    JM

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