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    Apologies if this has been covered. What for you would you like to see uncovered from 1888 to allow us to get more insight into who the killer(s) were? A knife, a photo, a piece of writing... what? Or do you think we are done, we have all we are getting?

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    I think it’s unlikely that we’ll get any game changers at this late stage Geddy but its not impossible. It’s still possible for interesting non- game changer stuff to show up though. Maybe a diary of some Constable that might give us a better view of the police’s take on things at the time? It would still be nice just to see photographs of people or places that we can only imagine at the moment. It would be good to see a photo or two of the inside of the Berner Street club for example. Certainly a photo of Mary Kelly would be a major find but I’d be more than happy to see what Pearly Poll looked like, or John Richardson or Robert Paul.

    We live in hope.
    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • #3
      Hi Geddy,

      I'd love to think that there are still bits and bobs out there waiting to be discovered.

      I believe that there probably are, although the likelihood of someone recognising their significance becomes increasingly slim as the years pass.

      I agree with Herlock that it's highly unlikely anything really significant will be found now, but there are probably items of peripheral interest gathering dust somewhere or else in circulation but unidentified.

      Some minutes from a vigilance committee meeting would be good, or some more police files eventually seeing the light of day.

      There could be random calling cards and photos kicking around in various antique shops and flea markets, but unless they happened to fall into the hands of someone who knew what they were looking at, we would never know.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
        Apologies if this has been covered. What for you would you like to see uncovered from 1888 to allow us to get more insight into who the killer(s) were? A knife, a photo, a piece of writing... what? Or do you think we are done, we have all we are getting?
        Personally obviously a name with concrete evidence!! But some more images of Millers Court along with the City Police drawing/plan that was apparently drew up!! Photos photos please!!

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        • #5
          Someones, or better yet a suspects, (who was there at the time) writings in which they spell the word jew as juwe.
          something like a trunk found in an attic somewhere with evidence in it-knife, confession, trophies etc.
          missing police files or personal musings
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
            Or do you think we are done, we have all we are getting?
            We're not done. The Ripper murders were 136 years ago, but Ripperology is only about 20 years old. We're not close to done.

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott

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            • #7
              After 2000 years they have uncovered major discoveries at Pompeii, there is always hope.
              dustymiller
              aka drstrange

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              • #8
                There's still more to be discovered and uncovered.

                It would be nice to find something that is a game changer.

                Maybe an authentic engraved watch that declares

                "I am Jack"

                Or a personal diary of some sort...

                ​​​​​​



                RD
                "Great minds, don't think alike"

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                • #9
                  I would like to see the return of the suspects file, which went missing in the 1980s I think. It would be interesting, for example, to see if it identifies PC Sagar's suspect, which he says at some point they were monitoring on the night of the Double Event. While I doubt it contains anything of major significance on its own, given the research skills of some people, it could spark some interesting leads. Sadly, I don't think it contains any specific details about how various individuals were investigated, but perhaps somewhere there remains some police notebooks or files in an attack that would provide us with some insights as to how the police would determine an individual's "story was confirmed."

                  Another finding that I sometimes wish would arise would be to find a set of slides by Openshaw, where underneath the glass plate is a slice of the From Hell kidney. If that were still in existence, then there is the possibility of determining if it was or was not a female human kidney, and may even provide sufficient information to determine if there is an ancestral link to some of Kate's descendants. It would be interesting to put to rest, one way or the other, the validity of the From Hell letter. If on the off chance it were a genuine communication from JtR, then the description of the dishevelled Irish Speaking fellow takes on greater significance than it is normally given.

                  Those are sort of things that would provide a largish, but not by itself "case solution" bit of new information. On some specific ideas, it would be interesting to find some document that either places Druitt at his London offices between his cricket matches (say, a court document he had signed and dated and filed because he had to go back to London for that purpose), or one that definitely places him out of town playing cricket (some hotel book, or restaurant book, that shows him there, closing out his last remaining window of opportunity). Something similar for Maybrick would be good too, and perhaps for him that may be more likely to find. I don't think there would be any chance for suspects like Kosminski for such records though, and it appears that the employee records for Pickfords no longer exist, so we know that line of inquiry has been tried for Cross/Lechmere already and there's nothing to be found on anyone who worked for Pickford's at that time.

                  For me, though, these types of findings would be less interesting as I'm not particularly suspect focused, so ruling one person out, whomever it is, would not be as big a finding as something that opens up solid new ideas to explore.

                  - Jeff

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
                    After 2000 years they have uncovered major discoveries at Pompeii, there is always hope.
                    I would prefer not to wait so long though.

                    - Jeff

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post
                      There's still more to be discovered and uncovered.

                      It would be nice to find something that is a game changer.
                      Getting people to believe it would be another matter.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

                        Getting people to believe it would be another matter.
                        You said it.

                        Yours truly,

                        Tom Wescott

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