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  • Colin Roberts
    Detective
    • Jun 2011
    • 310

    #16
    In Accordance with the Forty-Ninth through Fifty-Third Annual Reports of the Registrar-General of Births, Deaths, and Marriages in England:


    Registered Deaths of Male & Female Adults (Ages 20 - xx) throughout England, Classified as 'Murder': 1886-1890 (Click Image, to Enlarge in flickr)


    Registered Deaths of Male & Female Adults (Ages 20 - xx) throughout England, Classified as 'Murder'; Exclusive of Those, which were by way of 'Cut Throat' (Purple) / Those, which were by way of 'Cut Throat' (Lavender): 1886-1890 (Click Image, to Enlarge in flickr)


    Registered Deaths of Male & Female Adults (Ages 20 - xx) throughout England, Classified as 'Murder'; Exclusive of Those, which were by way of 'Cut Throat' (Purple) & Those, which were by way of 'Cut Throat' (Lavender): 1886-1890 (Click Image, to Enlarge in flickr)

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    • GUT
      Commissioner
      • Jan 2014
      • 7841

      #17
      G'Day Colin

      Thanks for that. So the jump in cut throats, between 87 and 88 exactly equals the canonical 5. INTERSTING [but not funny].

      GUT
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • MrBarnett
        *
        • Nov 2013
        • 5672

        #18
        Hi Colin,

        Brilliant piece of work! Reminds me of the sort of stuff someone called Septic Blue was producing a few years back.

        I wonder what would happen if you compared the statistics for evisceration?

        MrB

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        • GUT
          Commissioner
          • Jan 2014
          • 7841

          #19
          G'Day Colin and MrB

          I wonder what would happen if you compared the statistics for evisceration?
          Would love to see those.

          G.U.T.
          G U T

          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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          • Amanda Sumner
            Detective
            • Oct 2013
            • 303

            #20
            Originally posted by GUT View Post
            G'Day Colin and MrB



            Would love to see those.

            G.U.T.
            I don't think that there will be any records of those, do you?
            Evisceration occurred after death, not before, so would not be recorded as the cause.
            Would be interesting though. I doubt that there are many cases before or since.

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            • GUT
              Commissioner
              • Jan 2014
              • 7841

              #21
              G'Day Amanda

              Inclined to agree that they don't exist but would be interesting nevertheless.

              GUT
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • GUT
                Commissioner
                • Jan 2014
                • 7841

                #22
                G'Day all

                Just a thought but some reports have victims strangled before their throats were cut, so I wonder where they fall in these Stats, not trying to start a fight just wondering.

                GUT
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • MrBarnett
                  *
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 5672

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                  I don't think that there will be any records of those, do you?
                  If there were, Colin would probably already have presented them.

                  MrB

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                  • Amanda Sumner
                    Detective
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 303

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                    If there were, Colin would probably already have presented them.

                    MrB
                    I am sure he would have.

                    Thanks again Colin!

                    Amanda

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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #25
                      Yes Colin great work!
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • Observer
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 3188

                        #26
                        Hi Colin

                        Would it be too much of an ask to compile a graph showing which murders were actually solved?

                        Regards

                        Observer

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                        • Sam Flynn
                          Casebook Supporter
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 13333

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                          Hi Colin,

                          Brilliant piece of work! Reminds me of the sort of stuff someone called Septic Blue was producing a few years back.
                          Funny, that. Perhaps Colin and Septic Blue should join forces
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • Sam Flynn
                            Casebook Supporter
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 13333

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Colin Roberts View Post
                            In accordance with the Reports of the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis, 1883-1893:


                            Cases of 'Attempting to Murder: Shooting, Cutting, etc.': Metropolitan Police District, 1883-1893 (Click Image, to Enlarge in flickr)
                            Interesting that there was a peak in "attempted" as well as actual murders in 1888, ditto 1891-93. Are there separate stats on "manslaughter", Colin? They'd be a useful comparator.
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • Scott Nelson
                              Superintendent
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2428

                              #29
                              Look at that spike coming back up in 1891. That was due to Cutbush and Collicut. Right?

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                              • Abby Normal
                                Commissioner
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11939

                                #30
                                Awesome as usual Colin!!!

                                Thanks and great work!
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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