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    Which serial/killer is most similar to JTR? For me Robert Napper springs to mind.Perhaps we can retrace steps back as we know far more about people like Napper to pinpoint the psychology/profile more accurately of JTR ?
    We're standing alone inside the night
    listen the wind is calling
    to the dangerzone beyond the light
    and suddenly we are falling
    But there ain't no stopping us now
    I don't know if I'll be back tonight
    It's just a machine inside of my head
    and now all the wheels are turning
    I'll think of the words we never said
    and deep in my heart it's burning
    But there is no stopping it now
    we're gonna make it somehow
    you wait tonight
    and we're waiting for the light
    Into the fire we will run
    into the sound of distant drums
    when you're walking alone in a dream
    on a highway to nowhere
    nowhere tonight

  • #2
    Look at the two-part articles in the Ripperologist, nos. 153 and 154. A number of possible Ripper profiles are presented with possible motives (planned) and reasons (more spontaneous).

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    • #3
      I always believed Ted Bundy was as close a profile you would get to Jack. He was unlikely as good-looking as Bundy, but he had enough charm (and more importantly money) to convince high risk street smart women to lead him to a place of relative safety to do his thing.

      It is always why I had issues with suggestions of suspects witrh psychotic episodes or obviously strange behaviour. The women simply would not have taken the risk with all that was going on. They would need an element of convincing, so the client had to appear cool, calm, collected and genuine. Bundy famously used to fein injury to build trust in the first instance. Despite being good-looking, he knew the girls would not trust getting in his car unless they were comfortable he was no threat. That was the tool he used. I believe Jack used money as a similar tool.

      I also believe he was narcissitic, egotistical and self-obsessed.

      Bundy was definitely far more interested in the act of post-mortem mutilation than the act of killing (of which he did deride some pleasure, especially when he forced other victims to watch). He often went back to his victims and spent "time with them". Your imagination can fill in the blanks of what that means. I think Jack would have probably returned to the crime scenes later for a sexual gratification reminder. I believe he most likely kept more than organs as trophies too.

      He was 100% an organised killer.
      Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
      JayHartley.com

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      • #4
        Robert Napper is certainly one that stands out. Jack the Ripper was to my mind a hybrid of Napper and Peter Sutcliffe. It would seem unlikely that the Police did not question the actual JTR at the time. His name would probably be there in the files if they had been preserved. Napper was incredibly organised in regards his crimes whereas Sutcliffe wasn't. That is why I see JTR as a mix of the two. The sexual desires of Napper with the disorganisation of Sutcliffe.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post
          Robert Napper is certainly one that stands out. Jack the Ripper was to my mind a hybrid of Napper and Peter Sutcliffe. It would seem unlikely that the Police did not question the actual JTR at the time. His name would probably be there in the files if they had been preserved. Napper was incredibly organised in regards his crimes whereas Sutcliffe wasn't. That is why I see JTR as a mix of the two. The sexual desires of Napper with the disorganisation of Sutcliffe.
          I have a sneaky suspicion Napper had done some research on the Ripper crimes, and tried to recreate - or was at least inspired by - the Miller's Court carnage.

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          • #6
            Napper, Sutcliffe, Bundy , all have early crimes involving theft of some kind.So did JTR have similar ?
            We're standing alone inside the night
            listen the wind is calling
            to the dangerzone beyond the light
            and suddenly we are falling
            But there ain't no stopping us now
            I don't know if I'll be back tonight
            It's just a machine inside of my head
            and now all the wheels are turning
            I'll think of the words we never said
            and deep in my heart it's burning
            But there is no stopping it now
            we're gonna make it somehow
            you wait tonight
            and we're waiting for the light
            Into the fire we will run
            into the sound of distant drums
            when you're walking alone in a dream
            on a highway to nowhere
            nowhere tonight

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OctavBotnar View Post
              Which serial/killer is most similar to JTR? For me Robert Napper springs to mind.Perhaps we can retrace steps back as we know far more about people like Napper to pinpoint the psychology/profile more accurately of JTR ?
              There are some distinct parallels between the murders of Rachel Nickell and Samantha Bisset, both committed by Napper, and the murders of Martha Tabram and Mary Kelly.

              Rachel was stabbed 49 times in an outdoor location, while Samantha was murdered in her own home, her body mutilated and body parts taken away as trophies.

              This is partly why I would not rule out Tabram being an early ripper victim.

              Love,

              Caz
              X
              "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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              • #8
                Originally posted by erobitha View Post
                I always believed Ted Bundy was as close a profile you would get to Jack. He was unlikely as good-looking as Bundy, but he had enough charm (and more importantly money) to convince high risk street smart women to lead him to a place of relative safety to do his thing.

                It is always why I had issues with suggestions of suspects witrh psychotic episodes or obviously strange behaviour. The women simply would not have taken the risk with all that was going on. They would need an element of convincing, so the client had to appear cool, calm, collected and genuine. Bundy famously used to fein injury to build trust in the first instance. Despite being good-looking, he knew the girls would not trust getting in his car unless they were comfortable he was no threat. That was the tool he used. I believe Jack used money as a similar tool.

                I also believe he was narcissitic, egotistical and self-obsessed.

                Bundy was definitely far more interested in the act of post-mortem mutilation than the act of killing (of which he did deride some pleasure, especially when he forced other victims to watch). He often went back to his victims and spent "time with them". Your imagination can fill in the blanks of what that means. I think Jack would have probably returned to the crime scenes later for a sexual gratification reminder. I believe he most likely kept more than organs as trophies too.

                He was 100% an organised killer.
                Ted Bundy also had a 'double event', when one woman managed to escape an abduction attempt, and he immediately went in search of a second victim, who wasn't so lucky.

                Love,

                Caz
                X
                "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by caz View Post

                  Ted Bundy also had a 'double event', when one woman managed to escape an abduction attempt, and he immediately went in search of a second victim, who wasn't so lucky.

                  Love,

                  Caz
                  X
                  I actually forgot about that too. The second victim's death was incredibly brutal.
                  Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
                  JayHartley.com

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                  • #10
                    Ed Gein or Edmund Kemper.

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                    • #11
                      dahmer, gein, suff. but ive found none who are very similar.
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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