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  • Ashkenaz
    Detective
    • Sep 2008
    • 178

    #1

    Loner, scarred face, speech problems..

    It was Bury whodunnit. The black eyed scoundrel.

    The yam yams are the men, who won't be blamed for nothing..
  • Cogidubnus
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2012
    • 3266

    #2
    Where did they get the Kosminski picture?

    All the best

    Dave

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    • Wickerman
      Commissioner
      • Oct 2008
      • 14865

      #3
      The Whitechapel murderer must act strange to be strange, he must look bad to be bad?

      I wish these Profilers would leave the silent movie caricature out of the equation.



      The killer just as likely looked more like Paul Newman than Lon Chaney...

      ...
      Regards, Jon S.

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      • Ashkenaz
        Detective
        • Sep 2008
        • 178

        #4
        Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
        Where did they get the Kosminski picture?

        All the best

        Dave
        Looks like a sketch to me.
        It was Bury whodunnit. The black eyed scoundrel.

        The yam yams are the men, who won't be blamed for nothing..

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        • Cogidubnus
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Feb 2012
          • 3266

          #5
          No, the Sketch was a respectable paper...this is the Mail (which you can't even use for traditional purposes, lest you rub on more than you rub off)...

          All the best

          Dave

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          • Ashkenaz
            Detective
            • Sep 2008
            • 178

            #6
            Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
            No, the Sketch was a respectable paper...this is the Mail (which you can't even use for traditional purposes, lest you rub on more than you rub off)...

            All the best

            Dave
            Well, I look to me that Montague John Druitt, Michael Ostrog, Aaron Kosminski and Dr Francis J.Tumblety are all sketches.

            Well Ostrog might be a photo.
            It was Bury whodunnit. The black eyed scoundrel.

            The yam yams are the men, who won't be blamed for nothing..

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            • Cogidubnus
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2012
              • 3266

              #7
              Sorry Ashkenaz...I suspect you're too young to recall the Daily Sketch then!

              All the best

              Dave

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              • Jason
                Detective
                • Dec 2009
                • 382

                #8
                Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                The Whitechapel murderer must act strange to be strange, he must look bad to be bad?

                I wish these Profilers would leave the silent movie caricature out of the equation.



                The killer just as likely looked more like Paul Newman than Lon Chaney...

                ...
                this reminds of a quote i once read, cant recall it word for word but it went something along the lines of "subtlety is the subterfuge of a scoundrel"...or something like that....

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                • Wickerman
                  Commissioner
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 14865

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jason View Post
                  this reminds of a quote i once read, cant recall it word for word but it went something along the lines of "subtlety is the subterfuge of a scoundrel"...or something like that....
                  Many a true word spoken in jest....
                  Regards, Jon S.

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                  • Bridewell
                    Commissioner
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4038

                    #10
                    It's a while since I read it, but John Douglas's book, 'Mindhunter' was an interesting read.

                    Regards, Bridewell.
                    I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                    • Jason
                      Detective
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 382

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                      Many a true word spoken in jest....
                      IMO, he worked, he mingled, he seemed like he was helping out, he was known as a local face,.....we have seen it so many times in modern cases....Jack will have been visible, just a shame we dont have any photos of crowds gathered at the murder sites because i bet any money he will have been amonst the gathered crowd....

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                      • Bridewell
                        Commissioner
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 4038

                        #12
                        Face in the Crowd

                        Originally posted by Jason View Post
                        IMO, he worked, he mingled, he seemed like he was helping out, he was known as a local face,.....we have seen it so many times in modern cases....Jack will have been visible, just a shame we dont have any photos of crowds gathered at the murder sites because i bet any money he will have been amonst the gathered crowd....
                        That seems entirely plausible to me, Jason, but we still wouldn't know which face in the crowd was his.

                        Regards, Bridewell
                        I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                        • Wickerman
                          Commissioner
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 14865

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jason View Post
                          IMO, he worked, he mingled, he seemed like he was helping out, he was known as a local face,.....we have seen it so many times in modern cases....Jack will have been visible, just a shame we dont have any photos of crowds gathered at the murder sites because i bet any money he will have been amonst the gathered crowd....
                          Entirely agree with your 'local man', a regular face in Whitechapel. A worker, yes, not a dosser, and not living in a lodging-house.
                          Thats something we don't have isn't it, for all the press coverage about these funerals, its a pity no-one thought to photograph the assemblies.

                          Regards, Jon S.
                          Regards, Jon S.

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                          • Bridewell
                            Commissioner
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 4038

                            #14
                            Thats something we don't have isn't it, for all the press coverage about these funerals, its a pity no-one thought to photograph the assemblies.
                            Ironic, is it not that, on the day after publication of the Leveson report, we're bewailing the lack of an intrusive press in 1888?

                            Regards, Bridewell.
                            I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                            • Wickerman
                              Commissioner
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 14865

                              #15
                              Which just goes to show, you simply can't please everybody

                              ...
                              Regards, Jon S.

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