Are you sure that was in relation to the Ripper crimes, which is obviously what I was referring to?
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
His hands were tied behind his back when he was brought to the workhouse. Maybe a policeman's handcuffs weren't working. Or he didn't have them.Regards, Jon S.
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Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
He's not arrested if he is been taken to the workhouse. Though lunatics can be violent so moving them with restraints is normal practice.
"If a constable, relieving officer, or overseer is satisfied that it is necessary for the public safety or the welfare of an alleged lunatic with regard to whom it is his duty to take any proceedings, that the alleged lunatic should first be placed under care and control, he may be removed to the workhouse of the union in which the alleged lunatic is, and the master shall receive and detain him;"
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Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
The Lunacy Act 1890
"If a constable, relieving officer, or overseer is satisfied that it is necessary for the public safety or the welfare of an alleged lunatic with regard to whom it is his duty to take any proceedings, that the alleged lunatic should first be placed under care and control, he may be removed to the workhouse of the union in which the alleged lunatic is, and the master shall receive and detain him;"
Regards, Jon S.
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Look, lets just clarify this once and for all.
Swanson wrote about the police interest in a suspect.
"On suspect's return to his brother's house in Whitechapel he was watched by police (City CID) by day & night. In a very short time the suspect with his hands tied behind his back, he was sent to Stepney Workhouse, and then to Colney Hatch...."
The police were dealing with a suspect, there was no arrest, no charge, whoever this subject was he was a suspect and nothing more.Regards, Jon S.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostAll these policemen knew exactly what had been going on, so all these policemen invented their various "solutions.""Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by The Baron View Post
...undiscovered murders are rare in London, and the "Jack-the-Ripper" crimes are not in that category...I will merely add that the only person who had ever had a good view of the murderer unhesitatingly identified the suspect the instant he was confronted with him; but he refused to give evidence against him...In saying that he was a Polish Jew I am merely stating a definitely ascertained fact"
The Baron"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
bingo. it was the ID. the real question is how kos first came to the attention of the police. I would surmise it probably had something to do with him threatening his sister with a knife.
Exactly, also two other possibilties:
2.He had a great hatred of women, with strong homicidal tendencies.
Some prostitute must have been questioned by the police or agents and gave evidence or informations against him
3.This man in appearance strongly resembled the individual seen by the City PC near Mitre Square."
Here they had another witness too
The Baron
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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostLook, lets just clarify this once and for all.
Swanson wrote about the police interest in a suspect.
"On suspect's return to his brother's house in Whitechapel he was watched by police (City CID) by day & night. In a very short time the suspect with his hands tied behind his back, he was sent to Stepney Workhouse, and then to Colney Hatch...."
The police were dealing with a suspect, there was no arrest, no charge, whoever this subject was he was a suspect and nothing more.
Does it mean; relocated under duress, and breaching the 'suspects' human rights, in the process
The great thing about 'suspects' who are locked up in asylums, or drown themselves, is that they are not in a position to fight back.
Scotland Yard were not only incompetent, they were unethical too.Andrew's the man, who is not blamed for nothing
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Originally posted by NotBlamedForNothing View Post
What does 'sent' mean, in this context?
Does it mean; relocated under duress, and breaching the 'suspects' human rights, in the process
The great thing about 'suspects' who are locked up in asylums, or drown themselves, is that they are not in a position to fight back.
Scotland Yard were not only incompetent, they were unethical too.
www.trevormarriott.co.uk
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Originally posted by NotBlamedForNothing View Post
What does 'sent' mean, in this context?
Does it mean; relocated under duress, and breaching the 'suspects' human rights, in the process
The great thing about 'suspects' who are locked up in asylums, or drown themselves, is that they are not in a position to fight back.
Scotland Yard were not only incompetent, they were unethical too.
Regards, Jon S.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi Abby,
Deflect and distract.
If they had all opted for the same solution/suspect, too many awkward questions would have been asked.
Regards,
Simon
If all the decision makers are telling the same story, who is there to ask any questions?
Wouldn't the press appreciate a little consistency for a change?Regards, Jon S.
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