E Petitions and Ripper Files and papers

[Shelley]

The complellng reasons do not stand up to close scrutiny both from Messrs Begg and Evans nor from The Police themsleves.

I hate to be a drowning pool Trevor, but come on, pleease it's like banging your head against a brick wall, they have reasons and they will hang on in there with them. The UK has better standards than some stretch of land accross particular waters , and not without certain justification in the box as an answer for their delivery, if they care to be so kind and explain the details of WHY it is so.

[Casebook Wiki Editor]

Just shocking. It is such a shame that these petitions failed when they were so close to the needed number of signatures. Still it just goes to show what a determined manner and good leadership ability can accomplish.

Tragic really. Surely the authorities could at least round up the 77 to 100, and at that pace the snowball is really starting to roll.

The inability of those forcibly confined to access the Internet also unfairly skews things.

[Jenni Shelden]

Hi Ally,
so true, I dont recall the petition though

Jenni

[Ally]

Just shocking. It is such a shame that these petitions failed when they were so close to the needed number of signatures. Still it just goes to show what a determined manner and good leadership ability can accomplish.

[m_w_r]

Just an update on these petitions, both of which are now closed.

The 'international' petition (click for link) closed with 147 signatures. The terms and conditions of the website hosting the petition make it clear that the petition has no legal status, and that the effect, if any, of petitions hosted on the site is to raise awareness of the petitions' issues (for example, in the media), rather than to transmit opinions directly to the target audience (in this case, the Metropolitan Police). It may well be that the individuals who created the petition did what they were required to do and submitted the petition to the Metropolitan Police when it closed.

The UK-only petition (click for link) closed on 3 October 2012 with 77 signatures. Petitions hosted on this website do have a form of legal status, and the disclosure of the Cabinet papers relating to the Hillsborough Disaster demonstrates their legal muscle in action. However, the minimum threshold to prompt governmental consideration of a petition is 100,000 signatures, so the Ripper petition fell some way short.

Regards,

Mark

[Carol]

Sorry I haven't replied earlier Carol. This is the first time I've logged in since that post actually.
I rarely post as I have nothing to really add on the main subject of this web site. I've spent a lot of time at this site reading stuff like the dissertations so when I see something where I might be able to contribute I do.
Now it's time to catch up on the posts from the last 6 weeks.

Hi Ozzy,

Nice to hear from you. Good luck with catching up on the last 6 weeks' posts. Not a task for the faint hearted!

Please don't be too shy about posting! We need more serious posters such as yourself.

A Late Victorian Christmas message for you -

'Here's wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year'.

Carol

[Ozzy]

Hi Ozzy!

You really are a sweetheart to spend so much time and brainpower on explaining your own method to me. I'm sitting here in AWE and ADMIRATION.

Unfortunately, I'm such a dunce when it comes to computers that I didn't understand very much. BUT 'shame on him who gives up' (Swedish 'saying') that I WILL TRY AGAIN!

Carol

Sorry I haven't replied earlier Carol. This is the first time I've logged in since that post actually.
I rarely post as I have nothing to really add on the main subject of this web site. I've spent a lot of time at this site reading stuff like the dissertations so when I see something where I might be able to contribute I do.
Now it's time to catch up on the posts from the last 6 weeks.

[lynn cates]

good luck

Hello Trevor. Thanks, and good luck.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Good luck and let us know if we can help in some way.

[Trevor Marriott]

It's a little bit more complicated than that. Some people (like myself) might not be satisfied with the petition's content or with the idea of a petition vs. having attempted something else, but nevertheless signed the petition as an intended statement.

And the “hitherto unpublished files, documents and papers relating to the murders“ is not a problem, as there ARE names in the SB ledgers “associated with the Whitechapel investigation“ (and here I quote from the SB ledgers).


So what's the update, if I may?

i am out of the country at the moment following new lines of enquiry i have not yet had the chance to assess and evaluate what has been disclosed to me by the MPS.

I will post the results in due course.

[mariab]

he {Stewart Evans} and Phil both seem to be saying that whether a person does or does not choose to sign the petition, it should be based on the merits of the petition itself and not any personality associated with it. I agree with this.

It's a little bit more complicated than that. Some people (like myself) might not be satisfied with the petition's content or with the idea of a petition vs. having attempted something else, but nevertheless signed the petition as an intended statement.

And the “hitherto unpublished files, documents and papers relating to the murders“ is not a problem, as there ARE names in the SB ledgers “associated with the Whitechapel investigation“ (and here I quote from the SB ledgers).

I have an update on the unreleased files in MEPO 38

So what's the update, if I may?

[lynn cates]

drumroll

Hello Trevor.

"I have an update on the unreleased files in MEPO 38"

Out with it man! I'm all attention.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

satiation

Hello Tom.

"It's even been stated by one poster that they don't care what new evidence Trevor turns up, which is remarkable to me"

Me too. I want to sate my curiousity.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

good luck

Hello Phil.

"I am sure the MEPO 38 situation is being looked into as we write from some quarters."

Hallelujah! and good luck to them.

Cheers.
LC

[Monty]

I found it absolutely staggering that this one poster would not care what new evidence Trevor would bring up.

Outrageous.

Of course that couldn't be me, not at all.

Monty