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Hi I dont know if this has been mentioned in this forum yet, so apologies if it has. I just wanted to draw your attentions to the November 1886 'Dean Street' case, about half way down the page. Any thoughts...
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Thanks for that, Dave! This case was new to me, at least, and it is extremely interesting to se how much it resembles the reporting from the Whitechapel murders. The very obvious paralel would be that of Liz Stride, for here we have a complete replica, more or less, of that deed. The main difference seems to be that this killer cut deeper, since he managed to almost sever the head from the body (if we may believe the newspaper report) with one sweep of the knife.
Two years away, Jack´s murders were waiting in the wings, together with a debate on whether or not it was a quite unique thing to find a prostitute killed in the open street by means of having her throat cut ...
The best,
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I love the mugshot at the bottom of the page, shes holding the date 8/5/06...confused me for a second lolComment
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Hello dave, Fisherman,
This is interesting. This may be a early murder of Jack the Ripper, but I in believing that he also Killed Martha Tabram, would find it hard to believe he went from throat slitting(his main M.O) to stabing then back to throat slitting.
However, it does rais a thought, why is it so similar, and it seems the pbulic was already set fast on a "Man dressed in all black"
of coarse in two years they would add the top hat and bag
Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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This was the case of John Fenning, of Newcastle, who had recently separated from his wife and had threatened to kill her because he thought she was a whore. On the 26th November 1886 John was twice stopped from breaking into their home after going on a drinking spree in the local pubs.
In the area of Low Bridge, he picked up a prostitute, but when they tried to go back to her lodging, the landlord refused them entry. John reportedly showed the landlord a straightrazor and told him he was going to kill his (John's) wife with it and then left.
John later picked up another prostitute, Elizabeth Tait, in Dean St. but again was refused entry into a lodging house at 15 Low Bridge. Neighbors heard a row and coming upon the scene found Tait with her forehead slashed and throat cut. She died shortly afterwards.
A policeman had seen Fenning running towards Pilgram St. but, after catching up with him and asking his name and address, he was allowed to go.
Later, when the details of the murder were ascertained, Fenning was arrested. His clothes were covered in blood but no weapon was found. Two men that shared a cell with him were called in as witnesses, stating that Fenning had admitted to the crime but their character was considered dubious - one had been a policeman.
Amazingly, the jury considered the evidence circumstantial and acquitted him after 35 minutes of deliberation.Best Wishes,
Hunter
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When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888
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Well I suppose it was really. Because they did'nt have anything like a DNA test back then. I suppose all he had to say was he got bloody in a fight, or something like that.Comment
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Similar to Kate Eddowes murder - throat slashed with facial mutilations. I wonder if records or mortuary sketches are available ?Originally posted by Daveshredder View Post
I would also be interested in similar murders at this time from this area.
It might be our man. Perhaps jtr went to London from Newcastle.
Thanks DaveIt was Bury whodunnit. The black eyed scoundrel.
The yam yams are the men, who won't be blamed for nothing..Comment
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I'm not sure yet, as of any other ones. But I live in the area, So I'll probably find out sometime. However, I know some of the ghost legends lolComment
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Is there anything known of what happened to John Henry Fenning after 1886? I do not have access to the census returns but would really like to learn more about him.
My attention was drawn to this case some days ago when a friend told me he was going to Newcastle and mentioned the "Dean Street Killer". With the little information I could get from the internet I was surprised by the similarities of this case to the Jack the Ripper-killings.
Thank you in advance.Comment
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so is there records of anyone who had the same lifestyle, in the same situation as john, in whatechapple 1888, must be loads I know lolComment
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