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  • #76
    Hi Victor,

    Yes, thanks for that. Although I'm not too much of a Tabram guy, I'd have to say that could be an argument for her inclusion. Is it a good enough argument?

    And you even figured out my code 100%.
    Last edited by sdreid; 03-18-2008, 11:41 PM.
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

    Stan Reid

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    • #77
      Hello all,

      Sorry for the tone of my last post Sam. Just frustration, nothing personal certainly.

      Glad you framed your inclusion using Stans format Victor, because I only pointed out she was killed before the 10th and on a Holiday.

      Richard that stuff is interesting certainly, I just watched The Number 23 on video the other night. And since I'm suggesting a pattern that was dictated perhaps by the killers familial or work obligations, you can suggest Numerology perhaps factored in I would think. Fair is fair.

      I wonder though if the "why" is really as melodramatic as something to do with Numerology? Im not against taking some caution when exploring the possibilities, and if the profile works with less evocative inspirations...like for example, were they murder/robberies when this guy or guys came to town? Were the organ extractions "business" motivated crimes?...Were the Fenian's who were plotting to assassinate Lord Balfour that Fall stirring the pot for the local gendarme? Did some Ireland bound ships have a schedule that involved travel mid-month? Do we know if any of our girls ever worked near the Docks?

      I would say that the one key card in the house that you built is The Canon Richard, because if just one is someone else's victim, it puts the whole shebang in question.

      I suppose I could say the same for mine.....but thats ok, because Im exploring this as an alternative to my belief that there was no "Canon". Its not that I post what I think is right all the time, I ask "what if" a lot too. In this case, I cant deny that all 5 are within the same month/day-holiday/weekend framework, if it is a legitimate pattern, then I have to consider that perhaps 1, or 2 men, did all 5. And Perhaps all 6.

      Best regards all.
      Last edited by Guest; 03-19-2008, 03:00 AM.

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      • #78
        I wonder where he was NO 30 - DE 09 -- The Thames?
        This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

        Stan Reid

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        • #79
          Originally posted by sdreid View Post
          I wonder where he was NO 30 - DE 09 -- The Thames?
          Hi Stan,

          Do you have an idea you might know him, perhaps some knowledge from familial sources you wont divulge?

          See heres the thing.....If they did stop because the killer died or left the country, then the murders unattributed to him in early 1888, or the murders after November 9th that have Ripper signatures, were killed by other people. Since the ones before and after also occur within the East End confines, might one conclude that at the time of Jack The Rippers Fall of 1888 Run, that other people who had killed East End street whores, or would in the future, were also around.

          I think thats really important when trying to continually re-configure the killers MO, based on the real differences in some of the killings.

          My best as always Stan. Just realized...one more "A" and you're Satan.

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          • #80
            Nope, don't know him.

            I'm only one key over from Stab too.
            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

            Stan Reid

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            • #81
              Hello Michael!

              When one adds the word "free" to your username, some people might think you are in a conspiracy to hide something about JtR from the rest of us!

              All the best
              Jukka
              "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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              • #82
                Originally posted by perrymason View Post
                Hi all,

                I was thinking that with the various differences in locale, types of wounds inflicted, manner of acquisition, and disparity in ages, its clear that if one man did kill all 5, he was if nothing else, flexible. His particular needs or wants seem to change from victim to victim based on the Canonical association, unless of course all he really wanted to do was just cut people open.

                But there were things that remained consistent throughout.

                -Always after midnight.
                -On a weekend, or with a Holiday attached to one.
                -Before the 10th of the month, or at the end of it.
                -80 percent done in the East End, under Metropolitan Jurisdiction.
                -Always cuts the throats.
                -Chooses only full or part time prostitutes.
                -Is not hampered by lack of direct light
                -Was rarely if ever seen with a victim prior to the kill.
                -Was never seen leaving the crime scene.
                -Performed multiple style injuries, stabs, cuts, extractions..in minutes
                -Never visibly left traces of blood while leaving the scene, 3 times with organs and other parts.
                -Was apparently not visibly threatening, at least enough to address his later victims trust to go somewhere dark with him.
                -80 percent of his kills were North of Whitechapel High Street/Aldgate.


                My intention is not to list all I can think of, I really would like to hear from anyone who sees continuity in other areas or aspects, things I wouldn't think of necessarily.

                Any input is appreciated,
                Best regards.
                Change in wound morphology, risk averse behavior
                We are all born cute as a button and dumb as rocks. We grow out of cute fast!

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