What intrigues you the most about Jack

[DVV]

Hi Jukka,

yes, the problem is the proof...and will ever be...
However...when I add 1 to 1...

Let's take some viable suspects...

James Kelly. Died in Broadmoor... But was he in Whitechapel in 1888 ?

Aaron Kosminski. Mad also. Died in the asylum too. And he was in Whitechapel.

Joseph Fleming. Mad. Thief. Violent. Spent 28 years in the loony bin and died there. Was in Whitechapel. Worse: moved there in August or September 1888. And he was Mary ex-fiancée...

Was he the Ripper ? I have no proof. But who can show me a better suspect?

Amitiés,
David

[mklhawley]

I'm pleading the 5th for now, but I still love my man, Tumblety!

[Chadwick]

Hi Mike,

yes, I believe the answer is so close...
My opinion is that his identity is already known...or could be.
The number of his crimes is to me the greatest mystery, and will never be solved, even if we find him.

Amitiés,
David

I agree. So near and yet so far. The problem is, our own investigation can only be based on the list of suspects provided, for the most part, by the original investigation. What's more, so much evidence is lost.

As to why, I've pondering this, along with all of you, who are far more informed than I. I wonder what we will never probably know. What is it that motivated him? Was it enjoyment in killing and mutilating? Was it revenge, where inner rage built to an explosive point? Was it a result of an insulted, highly inflated ego; incidents of the day that resulted in these hideous deeds?

Could it be all the above?

Delving into the minds of these sorts of people is tantamount to visiting a foreign planet. I saw an interview with the Green River Killer. He saw killing these prostitutes as his "career" and resented the bodies being discovered and removed. He considered them his property, his workmanship. Bizarre and out of the realm of our rational thought process. He said he enjoyed killing.

It strikes me that the way he -- JTR -- killed, rendering them unconscious before he slit their throats, shows he wanted, needed and had complete control of them; a matter of some importance. They did not fight back, evidenced by the lack of defensive wounds.

He mutilated them. This is a very personal act.

And this, the personalness of the of these murders, is the crux of the whole case, I think. Not that it actually extended to relationship with these women. It was within him and his own history. I lean toward ego related rage and revenge. Best served up cold, they say. He had to de-humanize them, destroy what made them women -- what made Mary Jane Kelly, for instance, lovely.

Indeed, I leave it to all of you, who have been studying this subject far longer than I. We all have a bit of insight to bring to the table.

[Chadwick]

I'm pleading the 5th for now, but I still love my man, Tumblety!

Agree with you, Mike. He seems likely.

[looby64]

I must agree with other posts that its the reason behind the killings that intrigue me, what would spark off such an act?

[corey123]

I'm pleading the 5th for now, but I still love my man, Tumblety!

Mike,

Dont you mean the Narcissistic Ripper???

Yours truly

[corey123]

I must agree with other posts that its the reason behind the killings that intrigue me, what would spark off such an act?

I have had a good idea at how a sudden outer stimulous could trigger such a violent killing spree. Mike and Chad and most who have posted on this thread have read what I think. If you want you can look at the thread named "Serial killers, a pattern", which discusses the whole topic, with all the insight of the casebook.

Yours truly

[looby64]

Thanks Corey123, I will have a look. x Looby

[looby64]

Hi Corey123, just read your Serial killers, a pattern post, wow, you have researched it well. Would a person with this dissorder stop voluntarily or have to be stoppped i.e arrested and locked away or have probably died?

[corey123]

Looby,

No, I would think any sadistic serial killer would have trouble ever stopping. No I think something happened, he died, or got arrested on other charges, or maybe he kept killing. That is why I keep all the murders(besides the Torso murders) after Kellys murder in mind.

I have estimated the killers age at being lait 20's to middle 30's. So I would not be supprised if he did die, though a bit shocked if it was right after Kellys murder.

Yours truly

p.s Besides the first post, the whole thread(Although very long) is worth a read. Almost like reading a good book.

[looby64]

Thanks Corey, will read it fully. x Looby

[The Red Dahlia]

What was the final trigger? what sent him over the edge once and for all
Red dahlia

[corey123]

Red,

this killer had one trigger. None other. Once he started killing and liked it,it sort of became an obsession,no trigger needed. He was obsessed with his fantasy jus like most ripperologist(me included)poor ourselves over this case.

The question we need to ask is what triggered the end of the spree(assuming Kelly was the last,which is not likely)

yours truly

[DVV]

He was obsessed with his fantasy jus like most ripperologist(me included)poor ourselves over this case.

yours truly

What ??

Amitiés,
David

[corey123]

David,

Ment pour, nor poor.

Sorry

Yours truly