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His identity not being known OR why did he stop killing?
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Maybe he didn't.....Originally posted by jonwilson View Post
I would say the thing that intrigues me most Jon is how quick he managed to murder. It is as if he just appears, kills then vanishes. It is almost as if he doesn't exist
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Adam
"They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me
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Just how close he came to being caught has always intruiged me.
Starting with Stride...was he lurking in the shadows until he go a second or two to vanish from the yard?
The injuries to Eddowes must have taken some time and with access to the court from multiple directions, he must have had nerves of steel to do what he did.
With the time spent in Kelly's room, he took the chance that no one would come knocking or simply enter the room whilst doing his dirty work.
At some point in time, he literally must have been only a miniute or two, perhaps only a few seconds from discovery.
Luck was certainly on his side.Comment
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The mind behind the murderer.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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The ninja-like stealth he must have had to avoid the dragnet on the night of the Double Event, and the odds against his adrenaline junkie risk taking being blessed with the freak luck needed to keep him from capture.Comment
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......for me its got to be Mary Jane Kelly, or her romantic name, Marie Jeanette Kelly.
Out of all the vitims she arouses the most sympathy, we have images and photos of the other victims but because of the savagery of her murderer she has been phyically erased from history. The small glimses of her pathetic life and her youthfulness is endearing, but the fact is that she left this world a lowclass drunken prostitute, a victim of the worlds greatest crime story.
There is a website (http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/) with a wealth of victorian photographic portraits and on occasion i spend some time just surfing them. Most are upright and very victorian in their attitude and quality, the exact opposite of the only image we have of Mary Jane Kelly, oh how i wish we came across a beautiful portrait of her in a dignified studio setting. Heres one i found that with wishful thinking MIGHT be how she would have looked.....
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Thanks for that picture Blackfingernail. The face might not be far off, but descriptions of MJK make her out to have had a much fuller head of hair and to have been significantly more full figured.Comment
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the motive for me.if mickey's a mouse, and pluto's a dog, whats goofy?Comment
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The motive for me too.
Aside from that, nothing about the man intrigues or interests me in the slightest anymore. Going by the sightings and what's known about serial killers, he was probably just an ordinary-looking bloke in his thirties who lived in Whitechapel himself and was just as grimy as the rest of its populace at the time.
But the motive is intriguing. It seems to be a sexual [and misogynistic] one, but there's absolutely nothing sexy about innards (vaginas notwithstanding) in any way, shape or form, so that's weird; blood and guts is nauseating (unless you're a medic or soldier). But is there an official term for someone sexually attracted to gore? Because if there is, whatever it is is the only thing I can think of that Jack must've been.Comment
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Hello Jonwilson, of the two given options, his identity. Of the case in macro, the various aspects of the late 19th century mind and culture of the English. As an example, in evaluating George Chapman I found that the amount of tartar emetic he purchased is equal to 145.8333 doses. While in and of itself not startling in nature, it is slightly more so when one considers the purchase price of two pence, or indeed the potential for mischief that it represents as a whole. We moderns and post moderns clearly have a greatly different perceptual schema for reality. It is even more striking when one considers this is the difference generated by the passage of only 120 or so years in the same culture. Consider the role of the of the modern academic archaeologist who by definition is is of a different culture separated by as much as 200,000 years. Respectfully DaveWe are all born cute as a button and dumb as rocks. We grow out of cute fast!Comment
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Hi M&P,Originally posted by Mascara & Paranoia View Post
I remember Dan Norder defining Jack as a "necro-sadist".
Good enough for me.
Amitiés,
DavidComment
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Hello you all!
My main interest in JtR is probably; Why?!
"Necro-sadist"?!
A nice definition indeed, thanks, David!
All the best
Jukka"When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"Comment
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What intrigues me the most is just like protohistorian, his identity, and have all the bases been covered? Sometimes it feels like the answer is so close, but then reality sets in.Originally posted by j.r-ahde View Post
MikeThe Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
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Hi Mike,Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
yes, I believe the answer is so close...
My opinion is that his identity is already known...or could be.
The number of his crimes is to me the greatest mystery, and will never be solved, even if we find him.
Amitiés,
DavidComment
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Hello DVV!
Basically, all we need, is the final definite piece of proof!
All the best
Jukka"When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"Comment
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