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    Was the following spoken or written by Frederick Deeming? And could he possibly have been Jack the Ripper?

    On the twenty-first of May,
    Frederick Deeming passed away;
    On the scaffold he did say --
    "Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay!"
    "Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay!"
    This is a happy day,
    An East End holiday,
    The Ripper's gone away.
    Last edited by DarkTaleProductions; 01-06-2010, 02:02 PM.
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  • #2
    confession

    Hello Dark. Well, there is a legend that Deeming confessed to killing Kate and Mary Jane.

    For me, I take ALL confessions cum grano salis.

    The best.
    LC

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    • #3
      Well as they say Lynn, Tempus Omnia Revelat.
      In order to know virtue, we must first aquaint ourselves with vice!

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      • #4
        Habemus confitentem reum...

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        • #5
          pastime

          Hello Kat. I believe that. The sad thing, I think, about the cases (note the plural) is that, when everything IS eventually out, it will be much, much closer to a whimper than a bang. I think the facts will show how boring, paedestrian and vanilla these cases truly are.

          On the other hand, the psychologist and the sociologist will make heavy weather about why groups of people (including numbskulls like myself) ever got involved in the notion of a single mythical entity.

          In the meantime, we may all look at Deeming, et al. Not a bad pastime.

          The best.
          LC

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          • #6
            Your query

            Originally posted by DarkTaleProductions View Post
            Was the following spoken or written by Frederick Deeming? And could he possibly have been Jack the Ripper?

            On the twenty-first of May,
            Frederick Deeming passed away;
            On the scaffold he did say --
            "Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay!"
            "Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay!"
            This is a happy day,
            An East End holiday,
            The Ripper's gone away.
            It looks to me like this could be possibly East End Street doggerel, possibly made up by kids as a skipping chant.
            All the best
            Dave
            When you talk to god it's praying; when god talks to you its schizophrenia! - X-Files

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
              Hello Kat. I believe that. The sad thing, I think, about the cases (note the plural) is that, when everything IS eventually out, it will be much, much closer to a whimper than a bang. I think the facts will show how boring, paedestrian and vanilla these cases truly are.

              On the other hand, the psychologist and the sociologist will make heavy weather about why groups of people (including numbskulls like myself) ever got involved in the notion of a single mythical entity.

              In the meantime, we may all look at Deeming, et al. Not a bad pastime.

              The best.
              LC
              Hello Lynn, Kat, Dave, David,

              Mesage to psychologists after the fact...

              Humanum errare est.... It is human to err.

              best wishes

              Phil
              Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


              Justice for the 96 = achieved
              Accountability? ....

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              • #8
                It's a great song

                Try this for the 'proper' lyrics
                'Would you like to see my African curiosities?'

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                • #9
                  Many Music Hall songs were- shall we say taken into doggerel -and used as skipping songs/street songs/war songs and rugby songs- Just goes to show how good they were!!
                  Don't get me going!
                  Last edited by Suzi; 01-06-2010, 08:38 PM.
                  'Would you like to see my African curiosities?'

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                  • #10
                    Try 'The Long Trail' by Brophy & Partidge for what the WWI Tommy made of them...........

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                    • #11
                      This bit of "doggerel" appeared in Donald McCormick's 1959 book The Identity of Jack the Ripper (Jarrolds Publishers, page 145) and was later quoted by Tom Cullen in his book When London Walked In Terror (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1965, page 228). It was not spoken or written by Deeming and may possibly have been written by McCormick, who was not above making little details like this up.

                      Wolf.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Suzi View Post
                        Many Music Hall songs were- shall we say taken into doggerel -and used as skipping songs/street songs/war songs and rugby songs- Just goes to show how good they were!!
                        Don't get me going!
                        Altogether now!

                        Hitler has only got one ball
                        Göring has two but very small,
                        Himmler is somewhat sim'lar,
                        But poor Goebbels has no balls at all.

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                        • #13
                          I always though it was;
                          Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay!
                          My knickers flew away!
                          In order to know virtue, we must first aquaint ourselves with vice!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Suzi View Post
                            ... the song was popularised in Britain only in 1892, it seems, which is cutting it a bit fine for Deeming - for it was in the May of that year that he was executed. By the time the song took off, was Deeming's "cause" really all that "celebre" such that people would have thus commemorated him?
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • #15
                              No Deeming was not the Ripper. He was elsewhere at the time of the murders.
                              Best regards,
                              Adam


                              "They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me

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