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  • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

    You missed the whole point of the dicussion . Suggest you go back to the word ''clueless'' from herlock.
    This is what I said Fishy.

    Anyone that dismisses Druitt out of hand is simply clueless
    So unless I’ve somehow managed to alter my post I don’t see how you can continue with the point. It’s quite clear what I meant. Not that anyone who doesn’t think Druitt is a reasonable suspect is clueless but anyone who simply dismisses him out of hand and without proper consideration.

    So why are you objecting to something that I never said?
    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

      Regardles of all that there is a mountain of evidence that suggest he wasnt the killer.
      Like?

      Regards

      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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      • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

        Im sorry Fishy but I sense that you’re indulging in a bit of wish-thinking here because Sickert is an integral part of the theory that you favour. If someone revealed evidence that Druitt was in France, apparently enjoying himself, 2 days before an accepted ripper murder (and accepting that travel was slower in those days), at the very least I’d have to admit that this would point to a probability that he wasn’t present at the murder. It’s not 100% proof of course and I haven’t claimed that but by anyone’s standards it’s a powerful point against him.
        I think youve lost your way ion this topic , hint ''clueless'', you should go back and work out why i objected to it i the first place .
        'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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        • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

          Sorry Fishy but you’re simply making things up. Druitt’s cricket playing has been researched in depth and there is absolutely nothing that prevents him from being the ripper on that score (and believe me, people have tried.) Again, and just because some people have a tendency to equate me saying that Druitt is a reasonable suspect with me saying that he was definitely the ripper, we cannot eliminate Druitt - but that applies to many suspects of course. It’s down to our individual judgment to decide how strong or weak a suspect he is. If someone considers him a weak suspect then that’s fine, I don’t lose sleep over it, but its still baffling why people will go to any lengths to try and get him out of the way though.
          t’s down to our individual judgment to decide how strong or weak a suspect he is. If someone considers him a weak suspect then that’s fine,

          isnt that better than clueless ? thats the best post youve had all week .
          'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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          • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

            Like?
            for people to make a point he wasnt the killer
            'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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            • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

              This is what I said Fishy.



              So unless I’ve somehow managed to alter my post I don’t see how you can continue with the point. It’s quite clear what I meant. Not that anyone who doesn’t think Druitt is a reasonable suspect is clueless but anyone who simply dismisses him out of hand and without proper consideration.

              So why are you objecting to something that I never said?
              clueless is clueless , you know what you ment
              'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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              • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                clueless is clueless , you know what you ment
                I was hoping for a more honest response Fishy. It’s pretty weak to tell me what I ‘meant,’ when what I ‘meant,’ is there very clearly and very specifically for anyone to read. You got it wrong. Why is it such a big deal for some people to admit to being wrong?
                Regards

                Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                • Just to repeat


                  . Anyone that dismisses Druitt out of hand is simply clueless
                  In black and white and not a mirage. Impossible to misinterpret but you’ve managed to.
                  Regards

                  Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                  “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                    I was hoping for a more honest response Fishy. It’s pretty weak to tell me what I ‘meant,’ when what I ‘meant,’ is there very clearly and very specifically for anyone to read. You got it wrong. Why is it such a big deal for some people to admit to being wrong?
                    it was honest , i cant help if i think thats how you ment it , im just being honest , so we disagree . people do it all the time .
                    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                    • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                      Just to repeat




                      In black and white and not a mirage. Impossible to misinterpret but you’ve managed to.
                      Why not , you manage to misinterpret my post all the time .
                      'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                      • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                        it was honest , i cant help if i think thats how you ment it , im just being honest , so we disagree . people do it all the time .

                        Agree with you Fishy, you were honest, others are just playing words, there is no such thing as dismissing Druitt out of hand, this phrase means NOTHING, so don't give it a lot of thought.

                        People dismiss Druitt because he is ridiculous as a suspect.

                        Abberline dismissed it, and stated that there is absolutely nothing to it.


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                        The Baron

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                        • Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                          Agree with you Fishy, you were honest, others are just playing words, there is no such thing as dismissing Druitt out of hand, this phrase means NOTHING, so don't give it a lot of thought.

                          People dismiss Druitt because he is ridiculous as a suspect.

                          Abberline dismissed it, and stated that there is absolutely nothing to it.


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                          The Baron
                          Thanks Baron, i appreciate your response .
                          'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                          • Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

                            But - hey - it's actually not open for debate! Countless posters testify that the letters 'F' and 'M' are clear on Kelly's wall and yet only I on this site believe that the scrapbook is Maybrick's so they aren't biased.

                            The reason 'countless posters' see those 'letters' is because those same 'countless posters' believe the theory.
                            I can make countless Casebook members see anything I want them to see, even you.

                            Look at what I've drawn below at left, then see the untouched image on the right.
                            If you look close enough you can see the numbers & the faces I've drawn.


                            I'd say the green markings are two ears with a couple of whiskers showing - its more like Felix the Cat!

                            I'll guarantee I have just made everyone who looked at this post see things they never knew were there, and what is worse. They will forever see those numbers & figures every time they look at the original photograph. Thats the way the mind works.


                            Regards, Jon S.

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                            • Originally posted by Wickerman View Post


                              The reason 'countless posters' see those 'letters' is because those same 'countless posters' believe the theory.
                              I can make countless Casebook members see anything I want them to see, even you.

                              Look at what I've drawn below at left, then see the untouched image on the right.
                              If you look close enough you can see the numbers & the faces I've drawn.


                              I'd say the green markings are two ears with a couple of whiskers showing - its more like Felix the Cat!

                              I'll guarantee I have just made everyone who looked at this post see things they never knew were there, and what is worse. They will forever see those numbers & figures every time they look at the original photograph. Thats the way the mind works.

                              If i knew how to do that i could outline a extra terrestrial figure, head and body, all the way down the left hand side . Wick can you draw it in if you see it ?
                              'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                              • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                                If i knew how to do that i could outline a extra terrestrial figure, head and body, all the way down the left hand side . Wick can you draw it in if you see it ?
                                lol i see it! although looks more like a skeletal zombie like figure with staring eyes
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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