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  • Poll: The September's suspects

    Had the Ripper murders ceased after Annie Chapman's, who would have been the most likely WM, among these contemporary suspects ?
    15
    John Pizer
    20.00%
    3
    Jacob Isenschmid
    40.00%
    6
    William Piggott
    20.00%
    3
    Oswald Puck(e)ridge
    0%
    0
    Edward Mc Kenna
    0%
    0
    John Fitzgerald
    0%
    0
    James Johnson
    0%
    0
    Charles Ludwig
    0%
    0
    someone else
    20.00%
    3
    Last edited by DVV; 04-28-2009, 05:35 PM.

  • #2
    I vote Piggott.
    Because he fled just after the murder and walked to Gravesend.
    Because he was found with blood on his boots, an injured hand, and blood was also found on his clothes (that he left at the fish shop).

    So, had the murders ceased, Piggott could have easily misled me.

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    • #3
      C`est si bon, David.

      Isenscmid pour moi. Parce que il est loco et gingembre!!
      Last edited by Jon Guy; 04-28-2009, 06:14 PM.

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      • #4
        Hi Jon,

        Not bad... In fact, he would be my second choice.
        Have you seen his two pics ?
        I wish I could see his big yellow dog as well.

        Amitiés,
        David

        edit: Piggott aussi me paraît complètement muscat !
        Last edited by DVV; 04-28-2009, 06:18 PM.

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        • #5
          I have seen the photos, Dave, but he was a lot thinner in 1888 as his wife said he wasn`t eating properly since his depression.

          Unfortunately, Isenschmid`s Doctor would not let him attend a police line-up for Mrs Fiddymont.

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          • #6
            Yellow dogs sing well, but they don't know how to dress.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
              Unfortunately, Isenschmid`s Doctor would not let him attend a police line-up for Mrs Fiddymont.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ls6puqdB4
              If Isenschmid was the Prince Albert suspect, then both him and Piggott were in Whitechapel with blood on their hands... just after the HS murder.
              Both of them were mad.
              Both of them are contemporary suspects.
              And none of them was the WM...!!?

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              • #8
                Isenscmid

                Hello DVV.

                "Had the Ripper murders ceased after Annie Chapman's . . . "

                What an interesting thought!

                Actually, poor JI is summarily dismissed by (eg, Sugden) because he was incarcerated whilst C3-C5 were committed.

                Then there is the matter of distance--Mitford road Holloway to Whitechapel is about 5 1/2 miles.

                But his story is fascinating. He was obviously suffering from severe mental illness. He seemed to be completely dissociated.

                Notice that he left in the mornings at 1:00 AM to collect sheep heads and kidneys.

                Dissociated? Sheep heads and kidneys? Sounds almost like the story of Ajax who, in a dissociated state, killed a lot of people thinking they were sheep.

                Of course, he WAS in jail whilst C3-C5 were killed.

                The best.
                LC

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                • #9
                  It's funny you mention James Johnson as I have a few pages about him in the essay I'm writing.

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                    Hello DVV.

                    "Had the Ripper murders ceased after Annie Chapman's . . . "

                    What an interesting thought!

                    Actually, poor JI is summarily dismissed by (eg, Sugden) because he was incarcerated whilst C3-C5 were committed.

                    Then there is the matter of distance--Mitford road Holloway to Whitechapel is about 5 1/2 miles.

                    But his story is fascinating. He was obviously suffering from severe mental illness. He seemed to be completely dissociated.

                    Notice that he left in the mornings at 1:00 AM to collect sheep heads and kidneys.

                    Dissociated? Sheep heads and kidneys? Sounds almost like the story of Ajax who, in a dissociated state, killed a lot of people thinking they were sheep.

                    Of course, he WAS in jail whilst C3-C5 were killed.

                    The best.
                    LC
                    Its either sheepishly mad Joe or Lester Piggot for me. As I don't bet on the gee gees, Gee I'm Joe gets my vote...but I admit Dave, it's a close call.. and Piggot is a serious possibility coming up on the rails. But J.I gets it by a sheeps head.

                    best wishes

                    Phil
                    Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


                    Justice for the 96 = achieved
                    Accountability? ....

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                    • #11
                      I, too, am dissociated

                      Hello Phil. Bah.

                      The best.
                      LC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                        It's funny you mention James Johnson as I have a few pages about him in the essay I'm writing.

                        Yours truly,

                        Tom Wescott
                        Hi Tom

                        a few pages on Johnson, that sounds interesting.
                        What it a false accusation on Hudson behalf ?

                        Amitiés
                        David

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                        • #13
                          I think so in this case, because the police searched the street and never found any knife. Johnson had not run far and had no opportunity to stop and hide a knife carefully.

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • #14
                            Hi, Tom.

                            When do we get to read your essay?

                            Best regards, Archaic

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                            • #15
                              Hi Arch,

                              It's gonna be a while. Im halfway through it and it's already running long. I feel for Don Souden who might get stuck with the task of editing it. But it's coming along alright. It will exonerate (to my satisfaction, at least) Michael Kidney for the Stride murder and will then look at about 8 different individuals for complicity.

                              The point of the essay is that it does NOT just come down to Jack or Kidney. I personally feel there's no way Kidney killed Stride and that Jack must remain the most likely candidate, but there are other viable suspects, some of whom have never been looked at and other well known people, such as Albert Bachert, who have never been put under the microscope.

                              The second part of the essay will be all about Le Grand, who feel is just behind Jack as the most likely person to have killed Stride.

                              Yours truly,

                              Tom Wescott

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