A detailed suspect description from the Pall Mall Gazette

[DVV]

"Though not a muscular specimen of humanity, he is not of slim build. He is between twenty eight and thirty years of age, about five feet six in height, and is somewhat round shouldered.
... the ordinary dress he used to wear, which consisted of a black diagonal coat"

Lawende.
Schwartz.
PC Smith.
Who said Stride wasn't canonical ?

[perrymason]

Lawende.
Schwartz.
PC Smith.
Who said Stride wasn't canonical ?

Me, for one David.

Thanks for posting the letter Chris, it is an interesting and very thorough dream life this author possesses. It seems to me that the details reflect certain aspects of a few known suspects....I think this dream sequence might be a composite of more than one suspect. This is a year later....after the barrage of details of a few different suspects at each murder had sunk in it seems maybe his minded blended the facts together subconsciously.

Best regards.

[Debra A]

I'm not sure I have as much faith in this guy's dreams as you do, Chris. He didn't even leave his name.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Hi all,
has it got something to do with stuart cumberland?...the dreamer not the suspect.

[Debra A]

^ Here's a description of Stuart Cumberland's suspect, as revealed to him in a dream. Some similarities to the one posted by Chris and supposedly taken from a piece in the PMG in 1889.

Mr Stuart Cumberland has started a weekly paper in London called the Mirror, and in one of its first numbers he gave the following picture of Jack the Ripper, as revealed to him in a dream;

The face was thinnish and oval in shape. The eyes were dark and prominent showing plenty of white. The brow was narrow, and the chin somewhat pointed. The complexion was sallow-somewhere between that of a Maltese and a Parsee. The nose was somewhat Semitic in shape, and formed a prominent feature of the face. The formation of the mouth, I could not very well see, it was shaded by a black moustache. Beyond the hair on the upper lip the face was bare. It was not a particularly disagreeable face, but there was a wild intensity about the dark, full eyes that fascinated me as I gazed into them. They were the eyes of a mesmerist!

[Chris Scott]

Hi Debs
Thanks for reminding me about the Cumberland story
I did transcribe this some time back and I'll try and dig it out
All the best
Chris

[Mike Covell]

^
The face was thinnish and oval in shape. The eyes were dark and prominent showing plenty of white. The brow was narrow, and the chin somewhat pointed. The complexion was sallow-somewhere between that of a Maltese and a Parsee. The nose was somewhat Semitic in shape, and formed a prominent feature of the face. The formation of the mouth, I could not very well see, it was shaded by a black moustache. Beyond the hair on the upper lip the face was bare. It was not a particularly disagreeable face, but there was a wild intensity about the dark, full eyes that fascinated me as I gazed into them. They were the eyes of a mesmerist!

A mesmerist eh!

[cappuccina]

...sounds like a description of my husband when he is deep in thought! LOL...

[Debra A]

Hi Debs
Thanks for reminding me about the Cumberland story
I did transcribe this some time back and I'll try and dig it out
All the best
Chris

Hi Chris,
I think there are fuller versions of the Cumberland version of the story in The Glasgow Herald and a couple of other papers, I think from a later date though, maybe 1891, I sent them to Howard a long time ago so can't remember the exact details.

Mike
...mesmerists, the occult and theosophists figure in the Cumberland story!

[Crystal]

Had he been reading 'A Study in Scarlet'? Mystery murderer of uncertain, yet exotic origin, master of disguise, outwits the coppers with his native cunning..?
Only a thought. It was just out, popular, and also illustrated by George Hutchinson-OH NO! Him again!

[Debra A]

-OH NO! Him again!

OH NO, exactly, I've come here to escape that name Crystal!

[Robert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ8XFZAJBtg&feature=PlayList&p=5B233EC19510FB9E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

[Debra A]

Ah, George is Scottish Robert! That's where we are going wrong!

[Robert]

Ah Debs, George is everything....and nothing. He is everywhere....and nowhere. A very tricky customer.

[Sam Flynn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ8XF...rom=PL&index=3

I refuse to believe that that's his signature tune!

[Robert]

You're right, Gareth - THIS is his signature tune - to be sung with the words "Going Down to Romford."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFXAC2qrYs&feature=related