Animal Abuse

[diana]

Animal abuse is an early sign of a budding SK. The RSPCA was founded in 1824.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=about_the_rspca&marker=1&articleId=996827934749

Is there any chance their records might contain our man?

[caz]

Hi Diana,

It's a good thought, but I suspect that the man who got away with the ripper murders would have had no trouble experimenting on the odd furry creature without getting buckled for it.

Love,

Caz
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[ianincleveland]

Its posible of course though not all serial killers im thinking certainly of Sutcliffe here are animal abusers first.though more than a few are.its quite probable if he did start cutting up animals first he got off with it.its also possible if he worked in a slaughterhouse or as a butcher,he got through the animal cutting stage that way.

He could of course actually have loved animals.One of Hitlers closest relationships was with his dog.Being bad dont make you an animal abuser

[kensei]

I'd be a little surprised to learn that animal abuse was even a crime in Victorian England. Anyone know?

[Frank]

As far as I know is fire raising another early sign. Maybe there are reports of such events in or around Whitechapel five or ten years prior to the murders, although I would suppose that fires were not uncommon then.

[The English Gardener]

I'd be a little surprised to learn that animal abuse was even a crime in Victorian England. Anyone know?

It all depends on what you mean by "animal abuse". As an all-covering concept, no it wasn't, at least not in a form we'd recognise today. It should be remembered, however, that many of the old gaming "sports" such as c**k {I don't believe I've had to alter that} fighting had been outlawed. Things were beginiing to happen, but no one had so far decided to widen the field to cover all incidents of animal cruelty. Remember, it was only very recently that we ourselves got rid of hunting, a destestably cruel and sadistic pastime by anyone's standards. Oh dear, now I've done it...

[ianincleveland]

As far as I know is fire raising another early sign. Maybe there are reports of such events in or around Whitechapel five or ten years prior to the murders, although I would suppose that fires were not uncommon then.

Would a pyromaniac JTR not have burnt the bodies though??

[The English Gardener]

As far as I know is fire raising another early sign. Maybe there are reports of such events in or around Whitechapel five or ten years prior to the murders, although I would suppose that fires were not uncommon then.

There's certainly some evidence to back up your suspicions, Frank. Certainly Peter Kurten confessed that in his early days he was not only a serial animal abuser, but also had a thing for fires and road accidents.

[The English Gardener]

Would a pyromaniac JTR not have burnt the bodies though??

I don't think that Frank is suggesting pyromania. The fire thing is more a voyeuristic activity.

[ianincleveland]

I don't think that Frank is suggesting pyromania. The fire thing is more a voyeuristic activity.

Can see that if he had a voyeurisitc thing for fires hed still have burnt the bodies to add to his thrill and indeed to destroy evidence.

[Frank]

I think the common thing in raising fires and killing people are power and control over people. They give the perpetrator the feeling of being powelful and important. They have the power to decide who will be alive, who will die or where it will burn ...

[LTowell]

It's known as the homicidal triad or the homicidal triangle: bedwetting, arson and animal abuse. In A Psychopathology of Serial Murder, Stephen Giannangelo calls it the MacDonald Triad.