FBI pulls the plug on Colin Wilson

[Sam Flynn]

Paulin was caught because his haircut was like that of Carl Lewis.

If more than just his hair was like Carl Lewis, they'd never have caught him!

[DVV]

Sam, there's nobody like you!

[The Good Michael]

Sam, there's nobody like you!

If there's nobody like him, then he doesn't exist. I suspected as much.

Mike

[DarkPassenger]

To believe that all serial killers are sexually motivated is to deny that other motivations may drive them.

You are 100% correct to agree with me and Colin Wilson on that point.

Colin Ireland, Mark Martin, Daniel Gonzalez, and Derek Brown all killed as a means to an end - to "qualify" as a famous serial killer.

Brady and Mackey killed for philosophical reasons. Nielson, Haigh and Smith killed for money and Trevor Hardy killed, really, because he was a bit of a bastard.

Serial killers are just normal people with abnormal perspectives on the world. Sex is one of many primary motivations for predatory crime, the others being money, the feeling of power, self-esteem, etc. etc...

No-one, even Wilson, thinks sex is the only motive for murder.

[Sam Flynn]

No-one, even Wilson, thinks sex is the only motive for murder.

No-one? Would that it were true, Dark, but it do appear that some folks would disagree. I blame that Fawlty Towers episode about the psychiatrist...

[Pippin Joan]

Perhaps he just liked killing prostitutes, or just liked killing women. The fact that they were prostitutes needn't imply a sexual motive - it may indicate a need to find easy targets with which to feed an appetite for murder.Some who steal do so not for financial gain, but out of necessity - others do so simply for the buzz. To believe that all serial killers are sexually motivated is to deny that other motivations may drive them.

I've tried looking at the murders to get at the murderer's motivation for doing exactly what he did. I come up with a sick curiosity. I suspect there is some experience in dealing with animal carcasses, and a warped desire to find out what a human body is like. These women are easy targets and somewhat dispensable in his mind. There is an obsessive fascination with the organs and no attachment to the victims, as in a crime where the killer has targeted someone for a personal reason.

[Sam Flynn]

I'll buy that explanation, Joan. Eminently feasible.

[Mitch Rowe]

Thats nothing new to me. Nor is there a suspect who must be guilty because all the circumstantial evidence points to that suspect.

Just because a profile doesnt match the culprit doesnt mean profiling is a farce. There are always exceptions to the rule. And so it is with suspects. I cant recall the cases(Must have watched them on TV or something)but the evidence pointed to one suspect and it turned out to be another. In one case it was uncanny. You would have sworn they were looking at the right guy.

So.. The profile gives you a guideline. Any or all of the points made could be wrong. But chances are many are right.

Hard evidence is the true key to the puzzle.

JTR sexual killer? No evidence of connection. I must consider other motives.
JTR man or woman? I can see no reason for Annie to go into the backyard with a woman. But if other evidence comes to light its possible.

[Cap'n Jack]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

Five thousand pounds thank you.

[Sam Flynn]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

...he probably thought he was on the right track.

[Natalie Severn]

Sam,You could make a bit extra writing jokes for Christmas crackers!

[DarkPassenger]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

Five thousand pounds thank you.

My favourite bit of ripperology?

"Maybe it was a jealous wife taking revenge?"

Profiling may state the obvious a lot, which I agree with, but Ripperology takes the, "we have no evidence otherwise" logic and comes out with complete crap which it can support by saying, "there's no evidence otherwise is there?"

A profiler can say with some confidence that a said offender is likely, based on the types of crimes, choice of victim, (**** the list of stuff profilers utilize is pretty long), to be a certain age, sex, class, race, and can figure out where an offender is likely to live - and a lot of the time the profiles are correct by a large degree. It's not perfect, nothing is, but it's a good start.

[The Good Michael]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

Five thousand pounds thank you.

It sounds like Casey was just getting his Jones on.

Mike

[Ashkenaz]

And other loons who think that the Whitechapel Murders had a sexual origin.

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I cant imagine why you choose to insult people who have opinions contrary to your own.

For myself, I am happy to read the ideas,opinions and hypothesis of others regardless of whether I agree with them or not. New ideas bring fresh debate.

I think that the jtr murders were sexually based. JTR did not just attack women. He was clearly interested in the female reproductive organs. He also stabbed at least one victim several times in the vaginal area. Possible more victims were mutilated thus. Surely you can see this act simulates penetrative sex between men and women, and hence has sexual connotations

[Sam Flynn]

Hello Ash,

Surely you can see this act simulates penetrative sex between men and women...

...personally, I'd see it less as a simulation of the sexual act, and more of an actual stab wound in the genitals. Also, no Ripper victim was stabbed "several" times in the vaginal area - if anything, the focus seems to have been slightly higher up than that.