FBI pulls the plug on Colin Wilson

[Natalie Severn]

Sam,You could make a bit extra writing jokes for Christmas crackers!

[Sam Flynn]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

...he probably thought he was on the right track.

[Cap'n Jack]

My favourite bit of profiling?
When several women were raped close to a major railway line, and stations.

Canter: 'the killer works on the railway.'

Five thousand pounds thank you.

[Mitch Rowe]

Thats nothing new to me. Nor is there a suspect who must be guilty because all the circumstantial evidence points to that suspect.

Just because a profile doesnt match the culprit doesnt mean profiling is a farce. There are always exceptions to the rule. And so it is with suspects. I cant recall the cases(Must have watched them on TV or something)but the evidence pointed to one suspect and it turned out to be another. In one case it was uncanny. You would have sworn they were looking at the right guy.

So.. The profile gives you a guideline. Any or all of the points made could be wrong. But chances are many are right.

Hard evidence is the true key to the puzzle.

JTR sexual killer? No evidence of connection. I must consider other motives.
JTR man or woman? I can see no reason for Annie to go into the backyard with a woman. But if other evidence comes to light its possible.

[Sam Flynn]

I'll buy that explanation, Joan. Eminently feasible.

[Pippin Joan]

Perhaps he just liked killing prostitutes, or just liked killing women. The fact that they were prostitutes needn't imply a sexual motive - it may indicate a need to find easy targets with which to feed an appetite for murder.Some who steal do so not for financial gain, but out of necessity - others do so simply for the buzz. To believe that all serial killers are sexually motivated is to deny that other motivations may drive them.

I've tried looking at the murders to get at the murderer's motivation for doing exactly what he did. I come up with a sick curiosity. I suspect there is some experience in dealing with animal carcasses, and a warped desire to find out what a human body is like. These women are easy targets and somewhat dispensable in his mind. There is an obsessive fascination with the organs and no attachment to the victims, as in a crime where the killer has targeted someone for a personal reason.

[Sam Flynn]

No-one, even Wilson, thinks sex is the only motive for murder.

No-one? Would that it were true, Dark, but it do appear that some folks would disagree. I blame that Fawlty Towers episode about the psychiatrist...

[DarkPassenger]

To believe that all serial killers are sexually motivated is to deny that other motivations may drive them.

You are 100% correct to agree with me and Colin Wilson on that point.

Colin Ireland, Mark Martin, Daniel Gonzalez, and Derek Brown all killed as a means to an end - to "qualify" as a famous serial killer.

Brady and Mackey killed for philosophical reasons. Nielson, Haigh and Smith killed for money and Trevor Hardy killed, really, because he was a bit of a bastard.

Serial killers are just normal people with abnormal perspectives on the world. Sex is one of many primary motivations for predatory crime, the others being money, the feeling of power, self-esteem, etc. etc...

No-one, even Wilson, thinks sex is the only motive for murder.

[The Good Michael]

Sam, there's nobody like you!

If there's nobody like him, then he doesn't exist. I suspected as much.

Mike

[DVV]

Sam, there's nobody like you!

[Sam Flynn]

Paulin was caught because his haircut was like that of Carl Lewis.

If more than just his hair was like Carl Lewis, they'd never have caught him!

[DVV]

Hi Howard,
in parenthesis, Paulin was caught because his haircut was like that of Carl Lewis. Funny enough!

Amitiés,
David

[Cap'n Jack]

'Even more dangerous, perhaps, is Wilson's classification of the famous Bobby Franks murder case as a sexual crime. This took place in the 1920's in America where two wealthy, bored male students kidnapped and murdered a 14-year-old boy, Bobby Franks, to prove that they could get away with the 'perfect murder'. It is difficult to understand why Wilson should classify this as a sex crime when there was absolutely no signs of sexual interference but we are told that the chisel used to kill the boy was a symbolic penis and the culvert into which the body had been thrust a symbolic vagina. Wilson admits that his interpretation, based on Freudian reasoning, is simplistic, but he believes it does show that the murder had a sexual motive and demonstrates that such crimes are by their very nature 'baffling and paradoxical'.'

That quote is from some bloke called AP Wolf who wrote that in 1993 in a work named 'Jack the Myth'.
I'd suggest you read the relevant chapter here on site.

[Howard Brown]

Dark Passenger:



Theirry Paulin, a gay serial killer from France, killed old women for finanical gain, but strangled,smothered and stabbed them as well...much like someone considered an ssk would....and they weren't prostitutes. Just women.

I think,as time goes by,we will see that this emphasis on "sex" in serial killing is but one factor, a major one in many to be sure, of a variety of variables which create the monsters...

Severin Klosowski's motive wouldn't be classifed as one of sexual serial killing.
Neil Cream's either. Both are serial killers.

Herbie Mullin eviscerated a woman named Mary Guilfoyle in late 1972 on a college campus and ripped her insides out for "the vultures". Herbie had 10 murders under his belt. Herbie heard "voices". No sexual contact was made,either, in either murder.

I ask you,D.P, sor.......whats the difference between the Guilfoyle murder and Catherine Eddowes' murder?

[Sam Flynn]

I suppose the Yorkshire Ripper killed those pro's because they owed him money, huh?

Perhaps he just liked killing prostitutes, or just liked killing women. The fact that they were prostitutes needn't imply a sexual motive - it may indicate a need to find easy targets with which to feed an appetite for murder.

To deny that serial killers are sexually motivated is like saying bank robbers aren't motivated by financial gain.

Some who steal do so not for financial gain, but out of necessity - others do so simply for the buzz. To believe that all serial killers are sexually motivated is to deny that other motivations may drive them.