Jack or the Zodiac?

[Sargoth]

When some people say lee Allen was the only suspect, it's pure BS. Larry Kane was positively identified by the girl (Kathleen Johns?)with the baby. Another thread I saw recently, a guy I think his title was model maker said he was there with a friend at lake Berryessa and saw Larry Kane shortly before the 2 people were stabbed. Go to zodiakkiller.com larrys writing looks like a match to me. I think someone else may have killed Stine, the cabby. Have any of you seen that woman who recently came forward, (Debborah Perez?) says her father did some of the killing and she wrote the letter to Melvin Beli.

[Barnaby]

Forensic psychiatrist Michael Stone developed a scale of evil from 1-22.
Ted Bundy rated only 17.

Epic failure of scale.

[celee]

Oh, I have read way too many serial killer books. I think you refer to when Zodiac supposedly called a tv talk show to talk to attorney Melvin Belli and referred to himself as Sam, but that was found to have been a mental hospital patient and not really Zodiac. Of course that could still have been used by a copycat as inspiration, but I think it was fairly well established where the name "Son of Sam" came from- Sam Carr, who lived near David Berkowitz and whose dog Berkowitz claimed had barked orders to kill at him.

I am not really into serial killers as a whole. The Ripper murders are about as far as my interest goes. However, I have heard a few things about the Son of Sam. The Zodiac murders and the Son of Sam Murders were very similiar. The both targeted couples. They both Killed Men and Woman and the murders were taking place around the same time. It has been sugested that there were more then one person involved in the Son of Sam murders. Berkowitz may have just been a fall guy.

Yes, that is exactly what I was refering too. I did not know that it was found to be a mental patient. However still could have been a trigger for a copycat trying to be clever. I did not buy the dog story. I think Berkowitz made that story up

Your friend, Brad

[kensei]

Brad,

I don't buy the dog story either, it's just something Berkowitz made up to make people think he was crazy (which he wasn't). That Sam Carr was his neighbor though, and that Berkowitz was associated with Carr's two sons John and Michael (literally the "Sons of Sam") is fairly well established. The book "The Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry goes into great detail about how the Son of Sam was not just one man but a Satanic cult involving Berkowitz, the Carr brothers, and others, and that Berkowitz was indeed chosen to be the fall guy. The theory definitely has its critics but the book is very convincing, and Berkowitz has admitted to it in a televised prison interview with Terry.

Connections to Zodiac? Conspiracy theory being what it is, it wouldn't surprise me if someone could make that link.

[smezenen]

Epic failure of scale.

Is that your opinion or do you have evidence that his scale is a failure