Alleyways and Larger Areas

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • The Grave Maurice
    replied
    Eddowes fits your theory perfectly, Chava. Church Passage was considerably narrower than the walkway that is there today, and Eddowes defininely must have walked down it.

    As to some of the others, I'm not so sure. I mean, Kelly went down a claustrophobia-inducing tunnel and was killed in a tiny room. Your theory might apply were she killed outside in Miller's Court itself. Likewise with Stride: Berner Street was, I assume, the same width as the present-day Henriques Street, i.e., the same width as the other minor thoroughfares in the neighbourhood. However, your theory would apply if, as Trevor Marriott has touted on another thread, she had died at the back of Dutfield's Yard where it widens out. Same with Nichols. Buck's Row/Durward Street is admittedly rather narrow; but Nichols was killed right on that narrow street in front of a wooden gate. Your theory would come into play had she been murdered just a minute's walk farther along in front of the Board School, where the street broadens out into a thumping great courtyard-like area.

    Anyway, all that doesn't matter. What I like is that you are trying to come with a new angle. I much admire that.

    Leave a comment:


  • perrymason
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Don't say prostitutes, say "casual prostitutes" or "vagrants". You don't want to sound like a Ripperologist!
    Please....these women were merely "unfortunate", as the Mary Jane character says in From Hell, "Oh Yeah...we're just a great big mass of very unlucky women"...or something to that effect.

    Cheers.

    Leave a comment:


  • Chava
    replied
    I agree, Sam. But it's not just the tight alley! I think a lot of whores would have taken their clients into those alleys for privacy. But the victims took the killer through the alleys and out into a broader but confined space.

    Maurice, it seems to apply to Tabram, sort of. Chapman certainly. Kelly certainly. Stride more-or-less depending on how narrow Berners St was. Eddowes, again more-or-less depending on whether she went through an alley into Mitre Square, which I seem to have read that she did. Nicholls is a stretch, although Buck's Row was narrow, and she was killed at a point in the street where there were stables, so she was killed just before the larger space. I think the killings ended with Kelly, but I remain convinced that she, of all the victims, did know the killer and had some kind of prior relationship with him. That murder has always seemed more personal to me than the others.

    Leave a comment:


  • Sam Flynn
    replied
    Originally posted by Chava View Post
    I've long noticed that the Ripper's victims were almost all killed in larger confined spaces after having passed with their killer through tight alleyways.
    You'd have struggled to go anywhere reasonably private in that part of town without having to pass through a tight alleyway, Chava.

    Leave a comment:


  • Sam Flynn
    replied
    Originally posted by bluecedar View Post
    Don't say whores, say prostitutes. You don't want to sound like Jack the Ripper!
    Don't say prostitutes, say "casual prostitutes" or "vagrants". You don't want to sound like a Ripperologist!

    Leave a comment:


  • The Grave Maurice
    replied
    Your location theory is interesting, Chava, but, as you say, it doesn't work for all the victims. Perhaps it would help if you told us which of the Whitechapel murders you believe are attributable to JtR. For example (and this is just from memory) it seems to apply to Chapman, Eddowes, Kelly (sort of), and McKenzie (sort of), but not to Smith, Tabram, Nichols, Stride, Farmer, Mylett, and Coles.

    Leave a comment:


  • bluecedar
    replied
    Don't say whores, say prostitutes. You don't want to sound like Jack the Ripper!

    Leave a comment:


  • Chava
    started a topic Alleyways and Larger Areas

    Alleyways and Larger Areas

    I've long noticed that the Ripper's victims were almost all killed in larger confined spaces after having passed with their killer through tight alleyways. This is certainly true of Chapman and Kelly, and somewhat true of Stride. Eddowes was killed in Mitre Square--which is quite large but still confined as a square--and I seem to remember that to get there she had to walk through an alley from the Bishopsgate area. Nicholls walked down (quite narrow) Buck's Row before being killed at the gates of a fairly large stables. So she almost but doesn't quite fit these parameters.

    I'm no parlour psychiatrist, but the correspondences with an act of sexual intercourse are fairly obvious. I wonder if the victims 'picked themselves' in that they took the killer through these kinds of circumstances that allowed him to indulge in his sick version of sex. One might argue correctly that these were exactly the kinds of places a street whore might take her client for a bit of privacy. But there were other places as well--dark shop entrances; Spitalfields Church Yard; the narrow alleyways themselves. No Ripper victim is found in these kinds of places. I can't believe that's a coincidence. I wonder how many other whores may have saved their own lives by taking their homicidal punter into Itchy Park!
Working...
X