Wiki: Jack the Ripper

[John Bennett]

Call for contributors

Hi all,

I feel that many potential entries (senior police officials for example) are too complicated for me personally, but there must be others out there who have a better grip on them than I do.

John

The wanted pages of the Wiki are now mostly made up of Senior Police officials - Anderson, Swanson, Reid etc. I haven't touched them yet and it's a bit daunting, to be honest.

If anybody can put in a nice entry for any these folks, it would be great. If you are a bit iffy about wiki coding, that shouldn't be a problem. Send me a doc. file of text and I can transfer it into the format, sources and all. The Stephen White page was done this way (thanks Rob C!).

I thought I'd just clear some outstanding entries before launching into other things like big suspects...

Any offers, just PM me.


Muchos gracias (?)
John

[Suzi]

Maybe.....



On Mrs Prater's Doorstep no doubt!!!!!.....cue for a song!!!

Gawd hope it's not toooooo big!!!!

Suz xxxx

[Suzi]

Diddles has his own!...Thanks John! xxxx Maybe a pic next!!!

[John Bennett]

All done.

People's names within category lists have now been sorted by surname, except the victims as there's only 20 of those.

[John Bennett]

Reorganisation

For those who refer to the Wiki categories pages, you may note that the list of entries are jumbled up at the moment - either they are listed alphabetically by first letter, or by surname.

I am currently correcting the category list so that all named entries are sorted by surname, thus making it a bit easier to find people, especially witnesses (of which there are now 170-odd) and police officials (who are often referred to by surname in any case).

Sorry if this is all a bit confusing, but it should all be sorted soon.

Cheers
JB

[John Bennett]

John

Of those you mention, John Pizer and Israel Schwartz are among the ones I had in mind for the future.

That's right. I knew had had some in the bag, but couldn't remember which ones!

[Chris]

John

Of those you mention, John Pizer and Israel Schwartz are among the ones I had in mind for the future.

[John Bennett]

Hi Chris,

The easiest way to find out what is needed is to go to to THE WANTED LIST. This lists all links in the Wiki that have yet to have a page made for them.

I did start John McCarthy a while back and haven't got round to adding to it.

There are several other articles that are very brief and will need developing, but as they have been effectively started, they will not appear on the wanted list. They are:

Walter Dew
Walter Andrews
George Bagster Phillips
John Pizer
Francis Camps
Israel Schwartz
Thomas Horrocks Openshaw
Lyttleton Forbes Winslow
William Sedgewick Saunders

Hope this helps.

Cheers
John

[Chris]

John

Yes, I had noticed that there was a bit of a lull following the enormous amount of work you had put into the project. I do hope to contribute further in the future, though I'd better not try to predict when.

One thought I had was that trying to produce a complete article is a much more forbidding task than contributing individual bits of information. If it would be acceptable to have some lists of rough notes where pages don't yet exist, it might make it easier for people to add new pieces of information as they come to light, without having to worry about composing a whole article.

[John Bennett]

Hi all,

Some of you may (or may not) have noticed that after an initial 6-month rush, little has been done on the Wiki for a few weeks now.

I feel that many potential entries (senior police officials for example) are too complicated for me personally, but there must be others out there who have a better grip on them than I do.

I know I've been blitzing it somewhat and it's great that others (you know who you are) have produced great stuff, but I'm a bit spent with new book stuff and work.

With that in mind, there are over 40 users registered to contribute. Would anybody else care to muscle in on the 'wanted' pages? Or anything?

John

[spryder]

Just an update that the main Casebook's "Victims" section is now fully integrated into the wiki project, just as we've done with "Witnesses". Hopefully this will allow us to keep these pages more up-to-date with the latest finds, changes, etc.

Cheers -

Stephen

[Glenn Lauritz Andersson]

That's true, John.
It shall also be noted that this is also shortly mentioned in Evan's & Gainey's book The Lodger, where there is a reference to Chisholms theory and where such thoughts are discussed.

All the best

[John Bennett]

Thanks for that Glenn. There's also references to Chisholm and others (who have thought Kelly a non-ripper job) in an interview with SPE in the casebook.

I'll sort it soon.

Cheers
John

[Glenn Lauritz Andersson]

Hi John,

Ys, he argues that there is a possibilty tyhat she may have been a victim of Barnett and not the Ripper.

Alex had his dissertation Done to Death published in Ripper Notes (April 2000). There have been requests to have it included in the dissertation section on this site but I don't know if this has happened yet.

In short, Chisholm offers the alternative that Barnett murdered Kelly during a possible psychotic episode and that he tried to turn it into a Ripper crime once he found out what he's done, in order to put the blame on the Ripper since the police were on the lookout for a serial killer. And mainly getting his information about the Ripper murders from crude and erronous newspaper reports, he managed to achive over-excessive mutilations that went too far.

It shall also be noted that other discussions in the same direction have been taken place lately without the element of the mutilations as a deliberate copycat crime but a simple result of that the killer (regardless if we're talking about Barnett, Fleming or any other) may have been mentally influenced by the newspaper reports and that displayed itself during the killer's temporary psychosis.

All the best

[John Bennett]

Good point, Glenn - I had considered this earlier, but got so caught up in all the other bits, I forgot. Still got to put some pics in, so I'll work that one in too.

Does Chisholm merely suggest she is a victim of Barnett (and not the Ripper) or just not a Ripper victim. I can't find relevant sources for this one.