Berner Stret

[Joshua Rogan]

I've just come across this snippet of info from the Star, 23rd Nov 1888;

IN THE POLICE COURTS TO-DAY.
From Mile-End to America.

The man Benalins, a Swede, who was arrested as a suspect after the Berner-street murder, and last week was taken into custody for going into the parlor of a house in Mile-End, and nearly frightening a woman to death, was discharged at Worship-street. The Charity Organisation Society is going to send him back to America.

[GUT]

I've just come across this snippet of info from the Star, 23rd Nov 1888;

IN THE POLICE COURTS TO-DAY.
From Mile-End to America.

The man Benalins, a Swede, who was arrested as a suspect after the Berner-street murder, and last week was taken into custody for going into the parlor of a house in Mile-End, and nearly frightening a woman to death, was discharged at Worship-street. The Charity Organisation Society is going to send him back to America.

There were a lot of them, I stopped counting at 20 taken in to custody, and that was in Australian newspapers.

[Joshua Rogan]

Apologies, something went wrong and I posted this thread twice (most of it anyway).

[Joshua Rogan]

20, GUT? All named, or just anonymous? I take it none of them lead anywhere

[GUT]

20, GUT? All named, or just anonymous? I take it none of them lead anywhere

Mainly anonymous, none seem to lead anywhere, one MIGHT, be Tumblety (or might not).

[GUT]

Mainly anonymous, none seem to lead anywhere, one MIGHT, be Tumblety (or might not).

Some may even be repeats but printed in different papers around the country at later dates, it's not easy to be certain, but when I compiled it I was persuaded that there were at least 20 different accounts of people taken into custody and then released.

[GUT]

I'll try and find a few of them, here's one from the South Australian Register 10 Sept 1888

London, September 9.
A man has been arrested on suspicion
of being concerned in the murder of the
four unfortunates at Whitechapel.

Note that they thought he'd killed four at that stage.

[GUT]

Goulburn Evening Penny Post.

Probably based on the same information as the above

Horrible Murders in London..
London, Sept. 9.
A sensation has been caused in the neighbour-
hood of Whitechapel by a series of crimes which
have been perpetrated within a month.
Four women of the unfortunate class were
murdered by a man who is believed to be a
Fix this textmaniac. The bodies of the victims were horribly
mutilated.
The murders have caused quite a panic in
Whitechapel and its vicinity.
A man has been arrested on suspicion of
having committed the murders.

[GUT]

Many newspapers carried similar reports during that week or so, but on 13 September the Maitland Mercury (my local rag) reported that he'd been released due to lack of evidence, but no name given.

[GUT]

13 Sept 1888

The Telegraph Brisbane

Per Reuter's Agency.
WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.
London, September 10.
'The man who was arrested to-day on the
charge of murdering four womon in White
chapel on Saturday last, is elderly, and has
been proved to be insane. His complioity in
Fix this texttbe crime is uncertain.

Now who this elderly insane man was, I have no idea.

[GUT]

21 Sept 1888 in a whole slew of papers including Goulburn


These three "shorts" appeared in this order:

[QUOTE]A gang of murderers plying their
trade wholesale at Whitechapel,
London.[QUOTE]

A gang of 14 bushrangers amusing
themselves in the Northern Territory.

Four women lately murdered at
Whitechapel, London.

Interesting comment about a gang

[GUT]

The Express and Telegraoh, Adelaide



September 26.
The coroner at Whitechapel, who is
engaged with the police in the task of
endeavoring to discover the miscreant
who murdered the unfortunate women,
has been informed that an American
was recently known to have been
purchasing ovaries for anatomical
museums or medical students; arid has
not hesitated to commit murder even to
accoriiplish his mission.



Sound like anyone we know of?

[Steadmund Brand]

13 Sept 1888

The Telegraph Brisbane



Now who this elderly insane man was, I have no idea.

Fascinating stuff GUT..the Aussies were right on top of things...my question is where are the Footy scores from that paper ( I know...no Brisbane Lions yet....maybe Fitzroy? ��).

But all kidding aside...what about the one who "might be Tumblety"....would love to know more about that one. Ever anything else about him anywhere??

Steadmund Brand

[GUT]

Fascinating stuff GUT..the Aussies were right on top of things...my question is where are the Footy scores from that paper ( I know...no Brisbane Lions yet....maybe Fitzroy? ��).

But all kidding aside...what about the one who "might be Tumblety"....would love to know more about that one. Ever anything else about him anywhere??

Steadmund Brand

Even the VFL didn't exist then, I think it was the VFA, with out 4 clubs, I must have a look for the earliest Fitzroy scores for you.

There are more about that one, an inquest in Durhum also mentions a similar bloke as a suspect.

Given the size of Australia, coupled with the sparse population it seems the major newspapers would take news service reports (Reuter's seems most common) or telegrams from London correspondents and then regional papers would pick things up from the city's (but sometimes much later) often they would then rewrite the article, adding and deleting stuff, which can make it Gard to decipher which articles were taking about which events.

[Joshua Rogan]

[QUOTE=GUT;380219]21 Sept 1888 in a whole slew of papers including Goulburn


These three "shorts" appeared in this order:

[QUOTE]A gang of murderers plying their
trade wholesale at Whitechapel,
London.

Yes, lots of interesting stuff. Thanks!
Presumably the four are Smith, Tabram, Nichols and Chapman, as these reports predate the double event, and so are also pre-Jack. Smith said she was attacked by three men, and Niccols was initially thought to have been attacked by a 'high rip' gang, so doubtless a lot of earlier reports followed this line.




Interesting comment about a gang