The kidney removal of Catherine Eddowes.

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi George,

I agree that Sequeira was the least qualified doctor involved, but he was present at the post mortem, and therefore did see what had been done by the killer. Also, of course, Dr Brown was very experienced and highly regarded, and he seemed to have been perfectly satisfied that the killer had sufficient light, and did the deed as claimed.

It's not all about the light available to the killer; it's whether the killer had the anatomical knowledge to first locate the organs in the darkest part of the square in a blood-filled abdomen and then have the knowledge as to how to remove them and to remove them in the time he had available to him from what was described as the darkest part of the square.,and to remove a kidney which is probably one of the most difficult organs to locate and remove

You have to remember in today's world of anatomy, when performing surgical procedures, the doctors wear surgical gloves so that they can take hold of slippery organs these had not been invented in 1888 so another problem the killer would have encountered had been seeking to remove organs

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[Herlock Sholmes]

And as we don’t know who the killer was and therefore his level of knowledge or skill how can it be claimed that the killer couldn’t have done it. If he had that level of skill and knowledge then he obviously could have done it.

[Doctored Whatsit]

It's not all about the light available to the killer; it's whether the killer had the anatomical knowledge to first locate the organs in the darkest part of the square in a blood-filled abdomen and then have the knowledge as to how to remove them and to remove them in the time he had available to him from what was described as the darkest part of the square.,and to remove a kidney which is probably one of the most difficult organs to locate and remove

You have to remember in today's world of anatomy, when performing surgical procedures, the doctors wear surgical gloves so that they can take hold of slippery organs these had not been invented in 1888 so another problem the killer would have encountered had been seeking to remove organs

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Yes, Trevor, that is why I said that Dr Brown was satisfied that the killer could have done the deed as claimed.

Inquest: Would you expect to find much blood on the person who inflicted the wounds?

Dr Brown: No I should not. etc... etc...

Dr Brown considered the murder, excisions and mutilations, and was satisfied that they were all done at Mitre Square.

[Trevor Marriott]

And as we don’t know who the killer was and therefore his level of knowledge or skill how can it be claimed that the killer couldn’t have done it. If he had that level of skill and knowledge then he obviously could have done it.

But you and others seem to disregard what the modern-day experts have said about the degree of difficulty involved in first being able to locate the organs and then remove them in almost total darkness, from a blood-filled abdomen, and you want to readily accept what the Victorian Doctors say without question. I think you will accept that the study of everything connected to these murders from a medical perspective has progressed by leaps and bounds, and modern-day doctors who are experts in these particular issues are more knowledgeable than the doctors were in 1888 and should not be totally ignored as you and others seem to want to do

And I note that prosector rules out a butcher/slaughterman

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[Trevor Marriott]

Yes, Trevor, that is why I said that Dr Brown was satisfied that the killer could have done the deed as claimed.

Inquest: Would you expect to find much blood on the person who inflicted the wounds?

Dr Brown: No I should not. etc... etc...

Dr Brown considered the murder, excisions and mutilations, and was satisfied that they were all done at Mitre Square.

But no examinations were done while the bodies were at the crime scenes, where any organs were found missing, and there is no evidence to show that the organs were found missing before the post-mortem, so you cannot dismiss the suggestion that the organs were taken at the mortuary before the post-mortems.

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[Trevor Marriott]

But you and others seem to disregard what the modern-day experts have said about the degree of difficulty involved in first being able to locate the organs and then remove them in almost total darkness, from a blood-filled abdomen, and you want to readily accept what the Victorian Doctors say without question. I think you will accept that the study of everything connected to these murders from a medical perspective has progressed by leaps and bounds, and modern-day doctors who are experts in these particular issues are more knowledgeable than the doctors were in 1888 and should not be totally ignored as you and others seem to want to do

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First, they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948

And I note that prosector rules out a butcher/slaughterman So that the dents a hole in that theory somewhat