The kidney removal of Catherine Eddowes.

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  • Fiver
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Oct 2019
    • 3370

    #346
    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    You need a reality check !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ''You are increasing the volume of your voice, but not the logic of your argument'."
    "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

    "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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    • Fiver
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Oct 2019
      • 3370

      #347
      Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

      You would be surprised
      Currently, the number agreeing with you is zero.



      "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

      "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 22425

        #348
        The most staggering part of Trevor’s argument is about his starting point Fiver. In reaction to his claim that the killer wouldn’t have had time I’ve said this.

        If you claim that X didn’t have time to do Y then you HAVE to know the minimum time that Y could have taken to do and what was the maximum time that X had available to him.

        You can’t get more basic than that. But when I asked Trevor if he accepted the point he said “but we don’t know how long he had!”

        How can anyone not understand this point? I can only conclude that Trevor does understand it but he’ll say absolutely anything rather than accept an inarguable point.

        Regards

        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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        • Herlock Sholmes
          Commissioner
          • May 2017
          • 22425

          #349
          Originally posted by Fiver View Post

          ''You are increasing the volume of your voice, but not the logic of your argument'."
          I won’t mention names but there are two posters on here who love asking questions and making statements but they just will not answer and straight question.
          Regards

          Herlock Sholmes

          ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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          • FrankO
            Superintendent
            • Feb 2008
            • 2115

            #350
            Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post

            This was brought up on a previous thread some time ago, and I suggested that the probable reason for getting Dr Phillips to study the sieved remains of the fire would be for evidence of a burnt heart. I couldn't think of any other reason to involve a police surgeon.
            I missed it on the other thread then, DW, but I was thinking exactly the same thing as you regarding the motive behind the sieving of the remains of the fire by those medical men.

            Perhaps someone should open a thread on Kelly's heart - we are doing it to death on this thread!
            Although, of course, it's quite unbelievable why we are or need to be doing it to death, isn't it?

            "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
            Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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            • Fiver
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Oct 2019
              • 3370

              #351
              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

              I won’t mention names but there are two posters on here who love asking questions and making statements but they just will not answer and straight question.
              Only two?
              "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

              "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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              • Herlock Sholmes
                Commissioner
                • May 2017
                • 22425

                #352
                Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                Only two?
                Regards

                Herlock Sholmes

                ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                • John Wheat
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3401

                  #353
                  Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                  I won’t mention names but there are two posters on here who love asking questions and making statements but they just will not answer and straight question.
                  Don't forget those on the Maybrick threads.

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                  • The Rookie Detective
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1900

                    #354
                    Surgeon
                    Doctor
                    Medical/Surgical Student
                    Slaughterer
                    Butcher
                    Coroner
                    Convicted murderer
                    Surgical Skill
                    Anatomical knowledge
                    Skilled with a large sharp knife.



                    Any suspect or person of interest who doesn't fit into one of the above, was not the Ripper.


                    That's Lechmere, Maybrick and Kosminski gone then.


                    It doesn't matter why the killer took a Kidney that's important, it's HOW the killer able to do what he literally did, in relative darkness and within a very limited time frame.

                    How?!
                    Last edited by The Rookie Detective; Today, 10:43 AM.
                    "Great minds, don't think alike"

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                    • Geddy2112
                      Inspector
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 1350

                      #355
                      Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

                      It doesn't matter why the killer took a Kidney that's important, it's HOW the killer able to do what he literally did, in relative darkness and within a very limited time frame.
                      Do you think he specifically targeted the kidney or did he just take 'something.' Just odd to think if indeed, as per Trevor there were organ thieves at work why did they not take both kidneys or more organs to sell?

                      "The Lechmere theory never shoehorns facts. It deals in facts."

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