Was Dr. Phillips flustered by it all?

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  • Hunter
    Chief Inspector
    • Dec 2009
    • 1745

    #1

    Was Dr. Phillips flustered by it all?

    Its been a little while since Phillips in particular was discussed.

    Originally posted by Sam Flynn
    Personally, I think the poor chap [George Bagster Phillips] was rather flustered by it all. Wynne Baxter's penchant for melodrama and hyperbole couldn't have helped, either.

    Accurate statement?
    Best Wishes,
    Hunter
    ____________________________________________

    When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888
  • GUT
    Commissioner
    • Jan 2014
    • 7841

    #2
    G'day Hunter

    Not so sure about the accuracy of that.

    Baxter seems to me to have been a thorough Coroner, I am almost certain he would never have let MJK's inquest be cut short after just one day.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • Michael W Richards
      Inactive
      • May 2012
      • 7122

      #3
      Phillips saw the most Canonicals dead. As a result, his opinion is uniquely qualified in this cases.

      If anything he may have been flustered by other physicians findings.

      Cheers

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      • lynn cates
        Commisioner
        • Aug 2009
        • 13841

        #4
        good teacher

        Hello Cris. Interesting question.

        I think the good doctor was, above all, quite the professional. And he was a good teacher. When he gave an opinion he often gave his reason/s for that opinion.

        A good teacher can hear the same inane question asked infinitum. S/he merely takes a deep breath and answers yet again.

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • Wickerman
          Commissioner
          • Oct 2008
          • 14865

          #5
          "Flustered" is probably the wrong word.

          'Disturbed'?, to a point. Out of his comfort zone?, most certainly. Though Dr Phillips was arguably the most professional surgeon involved in the inquiry, so no-one better to apply his years of experience to this unique murder inquiry.

          A cautious man not prone to speculation and, as may be evident in the abbreviated testimonies, it would appear he bore witness to some medical evidence that made him feel very uncomfortable, perhaps to the extent of him being out of his depth.
          Regards, Jon S.

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          • Hunter
            Chief Inspector
            • Dec 2009
            • 1745

            #6
            Out of his depth or beyond what he considered proper enquiry while an active police investigation was still underway?
            Best Wishes,
            Hunter
            ____________________________________________

            When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888

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            • GUT
              Commissioner
              • Jan 2014
              • 7841

              #7
              Dr Phillips strikes me as a competent professional but how could anyone not have been disturbed at this series of events?
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • Cogidubnus
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Feb 2012
                • 3266

                #8
                I certainly don't believe that he was medically out of his depth in any of the individual cases...however, looking at the series collectively, it would seem that the whole of society was mentally out of it's depth with such a series of apparently motiveless crimes...

                All the best

                Dave

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                • GUT
                  Commissioner
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7841

                  #9
                  G'day Dave

                  it would seem that the whole of society was mentally out of it's depth with such a series of apparently motiveless crimes...
                  Spot on mate.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • Michael W Richards
                    Inactive
                    • May 2012
                    • 7122

                    #10
                    I would change "apparently motiveless" to "undetermined motives"...because the first presumes too much.

                    Not seeing something clearly, or not understanding it, doesnt mean its not there.

                    Cheers

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                    • Cogidubnus
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3266

                      #11
                      I wouldn't

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                      • Sam Flynn
                        Casebook Supporter
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 13322

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                        looking at the series collectively, it would seem that the whole of society was mentally out of it's depth with such a series of apparently motiveless crimes...
                        Spot on, seconded.

                        ---//---

                        I should clarify that I'm seconding Dave's "whole of society was out of its depth" observation, which is quite relevant to this thread's topic, namely whether Dr Phillips may have been flustered by the Ripper phenomenon. The matter of whether these were "apparently motiveless crimes" is a topic on its own.
                        Last edited by Sam Flynn; 04-08-2014, 03:17 PM. Reason: Clarification added
                        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                        • Cogidubnus
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3266

                          #13
                          Hi Gareth

                          Fair enough, your "apparent" reservations accepted

                          Dave

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                          • caz
                            Premium Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10569

                            #14
                            Would 'a series of crimes with no apparent motive' suffice, Dave?

                            Surely even Mike Richards couldn't object to such a straightforward and factual observation.

                            Love,

                            Caz
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                            "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                            • Cogidubnus
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3266

                              #15
                              Fair enough Caz!

                              All the best

                              Dave

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