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  • Monty
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5414

    #1

    Post Mortem attire

    Guys,

    A request.

    Does anyone hold any info or photographs with regards the attire worn by those conducting post mortems in the victorian period?

    Any help would be gratefully recieved.

    Cheers

    Monty
    Monty

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  • Septic Blue

    #2
    I believe that Robert Mann usually wore a top-hat and cape, and carried a Gladstone bag, while assisting at post-mortem examinations.

    Afterward, he would retire to the Marlborough Club, on Pall Mall, and rub elbows with some of London's other 'surgical experts'. After all, the Guardians of the Whitechapel Poor Law Union had given him carte blanche to come and go, as he pleased.
    Last edited by Guest; 10-14-2009, 12:05 AM.

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    • Sam Flynn
      Casebook Supporter
      • Feb 2008
      • 13340

      #3
      Oddly enough, I have in my mind the image of a man in a full-length brown leather apron. No kidding!
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • Monty
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5414

        #4
        Guys,

        Thanks...I think.

        I was wondering more the actual Doctor than assistants.

        And Colin, let it go, some things aint worth it.

        Monty
        Monty

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        • Bob Hinton
          Inactive
          • Feb 2008
          • 654

          #5
          It is horrible to realise but most surgeons wore their normal street clothes with their sleeves rolled up.

          Infection? What Infection?

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          • Monty
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 5414

            #6
            Cheers Bob,

            I thought as much. However there must have been a stage where they moved oved to 'scrubs' for the want of a better word.

            Monty
            Monty

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            • Suzi
              Superintendent
              • Feb 2008
              • 2167

              #7
              Hi Mont
              Probably after Lister (shown here) and his handy carbolic spray!
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              Suz x
              'Would you like to see my African curiosities?'

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              • Monty
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5414

                #8
                Many thanks Suzi, that helps.

                Monty
                Monty

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                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

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                • Suzi
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2167

                  #9
                  Quite like this little number too..
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                  Suz
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                  • Sam Flynn
                    Casebook Supporter
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 13340

                    #10
                    Here's Bagster Phillips and assistant at Annie Chapman's autopsy, as depicted in the Michael Caine "Ripper" mini-series:

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                    I seem to recall that, in the film Zulu, Surgeon Reynolds wore a similar brown apron to those seen above, in the scene where a wounded Stanley Baker staggers into the Rorke's Drift infirmary ("Damn you, Chard! Damn all you butchers!").
                    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                    • cappuccina
                      Detective
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 244

                      #11
                      Here is a photograph from the time, confirming the things all of you have said...

                      Cheers,
                      cappuccina

                      "Don't make me get my flying monkeys!"

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                      • Archaic
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1903

                        #12
                        Great photo, Cappucina!

                        I had always thought it dreadful that surgeons & other health workers wore their germ-infested street clothes around the sick, but I just realized that these people also rubbed elbows with the healthy populace while dressed in the same clothes they wore while autopsying the dead..

                        How would you like to sit next to one of these fellows on the omnibus at the end of a long day?

                        God only knows what they got splashed with at work.

                        Best regards, Archaic

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                        • Graham
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3813

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Suzi View Post
                          Hi Mont
                          Probably after Lister (shown here) and his handy carbolic spray!
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                          Suz x
                          Suze,

                          own up, now. That picture is a shot from your local amateur operatic company's production of 'Ruddigore'. I'm right, aren't I?

                          Best,

                          Graham
                          We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                          • Graham
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3813

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Suzi View Post
                            Quite like this little number too..
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                            Suz
                            Suze,

                            and this one is a detail from Gottfried von Schweinerschagger's painting "Dr Lister Demonstrates Necrophilia".

                            I just know I'm right!

                            Graham
                            We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                            • cappuccina
                              Detective
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 244

                              #15
                              You can see that there were significant improvements in operating room/theatre conditions by 1925 (...this pic is from London Hospital, I think...)

                              Cheers,
                              cappuccina

                              "Don't make me get my flying monkeys!"

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