Simon.
The liver processes alcohol, it passes through, it doesn't store it.
Over time alcohol damages the liver which leads to liver disease, which is what Saunders was referring to.
A few drinks leave no identifiable traces in the liver, not identifiable in the 19th century. I don't know about today with all our hi-tech.
Plus, the autopsy was conducted some 18? hours after she was arrested, so the alcohol had plenty of time to dissipate in the body.
Not forgetting that Saunders didn't look at the stomach until a while after the autopsy.
Sedgewick Saunders ....... why did he say the things he said ?
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Hi Jon,
Why can't you find evidence in the liver that Eddowes went on a bender five hours before her death?
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by packers stem View PostTelegraph of the 5th ....
"Juror: Was there any evidence of a drug having been used? - I have not examined the stomach as to that. The contents of the stomach have been preserved for analysis."
Clear from reports that as of the 5th he had examined the stomach for fluid and food but not for drugs .
The question raised by the member of the jury may explain why the contents were then forwarded to Saunders and the long adjournement before Saunders being called ..
It does not explain his nonsense though
The quotes you made in the first post are perfectly compatible.
Saunders was a chemist, did you know that?
This is why Dr Brown gave him the stomach to analyze, it was beyond Brown's expertise. Chemical analysis takes time, hence the delay in Saunders making his report.
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It's interesting that advances in forensic toxicology were made decades before they discovered fingerprints. Poisoners getting nabbed after science done on an exhumed body back then was an incredible breakthrough.
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Simon.
I think Saunders is looking for signs of liver disease as would be the case with someone with a drinking problem.
You can't find evidence in the liver that she went on a bender five hours before her death.
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The Evening News, 20th October 1888, interviewed Dr. William Sedgwick Saunders, Medical Officer of Health and Public Analyst for the City of London, who had appeared at Eddowes’ inquest.
“I think it would be quite possible to mistake it for a pig’s. You may take it that the right kidney of the woman Eddowes was perfectly normal in its structure and healthy, and by parity of reasoning, you would not get much disease in the left. The liver was healthy, and gave no indications that the woman drank.”
This is interesting, for just five hours prior to her death, Catherine Eddowes had allegedly been arrested for drunkenness.
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He wouldn't put them directly into a jar as it's awkward to get them back out. In a cloth tied into a bag it's easier to remove and spread out on the examining table. Jar would be for storage and transport.
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Sedgewick Saunders was at Eddowes' autopsy, so isn't it likely the stomach and contents were examined by Brown in his presence, then passed directly to him at the time for later detailed analysis?
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Telegraph of the 5th ....
"Juror: Was there any evidence of a drug having been used? - I have not examined the stomach as to that. The contents of the stomach have been preserved for analysis."
Clear from reports that as of the 5th he had examined the stomach for fluid and food but not for drugs .
The question raised by the member of the jury may explain why the contents were then forwarded to Saunders and the long adjournement before Saunders being called ..
It does not explain his nonsense though
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Originally posted by GUT View PostNo the stomach was tied, not the jar. The tied stomach was then placed Ina. Jar and the jar sealed, pretty simple really if you have ever been in a morgue.
"I removed the contents of the stomach ...."
And from the evening news of the 5th from Browns testimony ....
"Examination showed that there was very little in the stomach in the way of food or fluid."
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Originally posted by packers stem View PostWhat's wrong with it was that Saunders didn't receive a jar .
He received a stomach with its contents uninterfered with ....
You don't tie a jar
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Brown removed the stomach, and tied up the openings so its contents would not run out. He placed it in a jar and sealed the jar with his own private seal.
Saunders received the jar and examined the stomach.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostWhat’s wrong with it.
Brown removed the stomach, sealed it in a jar an$ passed it on to saunders
He received a stomach with its contents uninterfered with ....
You don't tie a jar
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What’s wrong with it.
Brown removed the stomach, sealed it in a jar an$ passed it on to saunders
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