Hammersmith Nude Murders (Stripper)

[Jeff Leahy]

Tis all that was discussed lost?

Dont think I can go into everything again! bugger.

However there should be a thread on casebook on this topic.

It is still on the agenda as far as I am concerned.

Jeff

[sdreid]

Hi Jeff,

Me too! Yes, I think all is gone like the Mayan Codices, the Library at Alexandria, the first Charlie Chan movie and the City of London records.

[sdreid]

Where the Hell were we?

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi Stan and Jeff

I've just bought, but not started reading yet, a book called The Survivor by Jimmy Evans and Martin Short. In the blurb on the back cover it says

35 years after Scotland Yard declared the Nude Murders 'unsolved', this book produces shocking evidence that 'Jack the Stripper' may have been its own most famous detective of the day, Tommy Butler.Was this discussed on the lost thread?

[sdreid]

Hi Stephen,

I think he was one of the 6 or 7 we had on our suspect list but maybe someone else remembers it better.

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi Stan

I've just read the relevent sections in this book which offer no credible evidence that Tommy Butler may have been 'Jack the Stripper'. He did live in the West London area where the bodies were found, but that's about it.

[Limehouse]

I have dipped into and out of this case at various times and thought the most likely suspect to be the security guard who had access to paint spraying workshops. It seems flecks of such paint were found on several of the victims. I believe he committed suicide and the police decided not to name him out of sensitivity to his family.

However, I believe some think that the boxer Freddie Mills was the killer. I don't think there is any evidence to link him with the crimes, except for his links to London's underworld, and the possibility of the girls being 'controlled' by someone close to Mills.

I guess it's one of those crimes that will never be truly solved.

[stevenb]

I read in a sunday rag that the security guard suspect had been cleared by his family or some such....

[Stephen Thomas]

Here's the cover of Found Naked and Dead, the excellent 1975 book on this subject. There are a couple of copies going cheaply on Ebay at the moment, one in the UK and one in the States.

[sdreid]

I suspect that the security guard, if he existed at all, might have been a convenient scape goat because the cops were embarrassed that they hadn't solved it. On the old thread, I think we identified a person who might have been this guy except he died in an accident not suicide. I don't believe there were any suicides recorded in this era that fitted the description. At least one of the half dozen or so suspects we named was still alive.

[sdreid]

IMDb lists a movie due out this year entitled Jack aka Jack the Stripper. Does anyone know anything about this film? There was a movie called Jack the Stripper put out on the early 90s but it was a porno had nothing to do with the case. I wonder if this new film might and if so if it's a documentary, a true-crime or what.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hello Case Book, Thank you for my Birthday greeting

I thought I'd pop past here as i heard rummer that a POD Cast was taking place on the Stripper murders...and a new book..God knows we need one.

So just to answer a few questions and try and update the position from last casebook..though I still havn't found my notes, working from maginalia.

Stan..there could be a film, certainly when i spoke to Seabrooke a couple of years ago it was being discussed.

Re: Suspects..

McCormacks 'Big John' suspect is one: 45 year old Scot named Mungo Ireland of 132 Tildesley Road, Putney.

Sucide Note Read: I cant stick it any longer. It may be my fault but not all of it. I'm sorry Harry is a burden to you. Give my love to the kid. Farewell, jock. PS. to save you and the police looking for me I'll be in the garage.

Seabrook claims the murders were commited by a car sales who worked with my dad at Cotinental Cars, Leigh-on-sea. Research lead me to beleive his name, not mentioned in 'Jack of Jumps' book was 'Cushway'. And Cushway is still alive and well to my knowledge and living in Chingford.

Tommy Butlers name may have been mentioned because of another curious fact about the case. All the bodies were left in different police pattrol areas suggesting the killer had some knowledge of police patrol routes.

Grey Hunter also appeared on the old forum and stated that the police new the identity of the Stripper which was none of the above suspects but then refused to name his suspect.

I think we can forget Freddie Mills. My money is still on Mungo Ireland, although Seabrook claims that he was away in Scotland when O'Hara was murdered. I'd like to see Jocks army records, that McCormack mentions in his book.

Well there it is roughly were we gotten to...have i missed the POD cast?

Thanks again casebook for birthday wish

Yours Jeff

PS. Is this the same suspect that went to Australia... 'Grey old boy?'

[sdreid]

These deals where the police say they "know who the killer really was" are usually, if not always, just a big CYA.

[Jeff Leahy]

True Stan

But as in 1888...the murders did stop..and serial killers dont just stop without reason.

Jeff

[sdreid]

Hi Jeff,

The murders stopping is an argument to that end but they do sometimes stop for less permanent reasons like fear of capture.