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Old 10-02-2017, 09:57 AM
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Default The Black Dahlia: Is This the Solution?

Folks,
A new book has just been published on the infamous Black Dahlia murder. (link below)

Unlike many of of the previous books on the case, this one is not one of the "My Daddy Did It" type.

The book runs to 368 pages, and has been getting good reviews.

Should be interesting!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Dahli...ahlia+red+rose
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Folks,
A new book has just been published on the infamous Black Dahlia murder. (link below)

Unlike many of of the previous books on the case, this one is not one of the "My Daddy Did It" type.

The book runs to 368 pages, and has been getting good reviews.

Should be interesting!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Dahli...ahlia+red+rose
thanks for posting. I wonder who the author posits as her killer.
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Old 10-02-2017, 12:24 PM
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Abby, my recollection is that it was a suspect questioned by the police but then cleared.

By all accounts the author has come up with some new apparently "compelling" evidence, but I suppose we'll have to suspend judgement until we've read it.

My copy should arrive soon, I'll post when I've read it.
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Thanks for the info, Barn.

American Amazon shows the hardcover book only available from "third-party sellers", and the paperback is almost out of stock, but the audio-book is listed as being available (it has a slightly different title.)

Looks as if the mention of "a police cover-up" is along the lines of the novelist who thought his stepfather was the killer.

Let us know what you think when you read it.
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Thanks for the info, Barn.

American Amazon shows the hardcover book only available from "third-party sellers", and the paperback is almost out of stock, but the audio-book is listed as being available (it has a slightly different title.)

Looks as if the mention of "a police cover-up" is along the lines of the novelist who thought his stepfather was the killer.

Let us know what you think when you read it.
Will do Pc.
I'm looking forward to it.

I suspect that this will be one of those books I'll batter through in 48 hours.
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I am quite rusty on my Mad Butcher but I came across this: "CLEVELAND
1. Man fingered as the killer of Cleveland Torso Victim, Flo Polillo by a lady in the Cleveland Workhouse (Flo Polillo and other Torso Victims are dismembered). The man fingered was: Jack Wilson" here

Is this true? Can anyone tell me more about this?
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I am quite rusty on my Mad Butcher but I came across this: "CLEVELAND
1. Man fingered as the killer of Cleveland Torso Victim, Flo Polillo by a lady in the Cleveland Workhouse (Flo Polillo and other Torso Victims are dismembered). The man fingered was: Jack Wilson" here

Is this true? Can anyone tell me more about this?
Hello, Rocky,

That site is a little sketchy-looking, but I got his full name from one of the blog responses, and searched it. Jack Anderson Wilson turns up at these sites:

blackdahlia.web.unc.edu/jack-anderson-wilson/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahlia_suspects

www.gasdetection.com/MDS/m102599.html

http://www.blumhouse.com/.../is-ther...er-and-clevela...

Seems a book a few years ago did finger Wilson as the alleged Mad Butcher and Elizabeth Short's killer.
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Thanks Pcdunn, yea I've heard of him before but the claim that he was a suspect in the Cleveland torso murders before the black dahlia was what I'm skeptical of. It's on the unc.edu link you posted. " He was originally a suspect in the Cleveland Torso Murders case" Which doesn't mean it isn't bullshit either but also makes me wonder
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I've only ever had a passing interest in this case but I wonder if Elizabeth Short was the victim of the mob? If Short was the "pet" of a particular mobster, a rival gang might have killed her and splayed her out in the open as some kind of declaration. Think the Godfather and the horse's head. She had been slashed from ear to ear, in what's commonly known as a "Glasgow Smile". This is a torture method used by gangsters that originated, of course, in Scotland.
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I've only ever had a passing interest in this case but I wonder if Elizabeth Short was the victim of the mob? If Short was the "pet" of a particular mobster, a rival gang might have killed her and splayed her out in the open as some kind of declaration. Think the Godfather and the horse's head. She had been slashed from ear to ear, in what's commonly known as a "Glasgow Smile". This is a torture method used by gangsters that originated, of course, in Scotland.
Harry,
I doubt very much if Elizabeth Short was ever a "pet" or in any kind of relationship with a mobster.

Her dental hygiene was so bad that she had taken to filling her many dental cavities with candle wax.

I think a well connected mobster could have done better.

With regard to the phrase "Glasgow Smile", I have lived in Glasgow all my life and I have never heard the phrase "Glasgow Smile" associated with a particular method of slashing a person.

I looked up the phrase on the Web and the comments you made are indeed widely supported by numerous references.

I wonder if this is a type of urban myth which has over time gained acceptance.
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