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Well, a lot of it is based on witness information some people don't give much credit to. Packer's story of the killer living in close vicinity (Batty Street area) and the supposed attack on him for stating he thought he knew where the killer lived. Then of course the statements of Israel Schwartz. Particularly the Lipski reference, for two reasons. Rose and Philip Lipski were the actual landlords of the house (16, Batty Street) where Miriam Angel was murdered in 1887. Stride performed work for the Jews and I'm wondering if she may have worked for the Lipski's in nearby Batty Street. Also in regard to Lipski and the Pinchin torso. Somebody had chalked the word "Lipski" opposite the wall where the torso was found. So there may be a Lipski reference in both murders and I don't think it was referring to a derogative name calling or even the hanged murderer. I think whomever yelled Lipski, was calling out to Philip Lipski or warning him.

As a side note: Israel Schwartz was said to have a theatrical appearance, or something to that effect. Philip Lipski was known to frequent the Hebrew Dramatic Club on Princelet Street which employed Yddish actors.
Thanks I have always been intrigued by the two guys from lipski case Something & Rosensomething
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Harry Schmuss and Henry Rosenbloom

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Thanks I have always been intrigued by the two guys from lipski case Something & Rosensomething
Rosenbloom and Schmuss.
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This was from Lipski's confession: I solemnly declare that Rosenbloom and Schmuss know nothing whatever of the crime of which I have been guilty, and I alone. I implore them to pardon me for having in my despair tried to cast the blame upon them

jerry interesting suggestion that the killer may have been shouting Lipski to Liz Stride.

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Interesting theory, is there anything on that block that makes you curious? She couldn't have been dragged too far
Agreed.
I don't see the torso killers working in this manner. In the days before fast private transport, forcibly dragging a woman off the street and transporting her on foot to her place of death would be a very impractical, and easily detectable, method of acquiring a victim. Difficult to imagine anyone getting away with that tactic once, let alone four times.
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One thing that seems certain to me is that the Ripper was a street rat. He might have been spent a lot of time on street during the day. Like John Arnold, George Hutchinson, etc. Where did Lipski and his two employees sell umbrellas?
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One thing that seems certain to me is that the Ripper was a street rat. He might have been spent a lot of time on street during the day. Like John Arnold, George Hutchinson, etc. Where did Lipski and his two employees sell umbrellas?
Wherever they sold them they had some interesting customers !

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