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Old 10-01-2010, 12:19 AM
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A question has bothered me. Why has Patricia Cornwell become Ripperologies Aunt Sally ?.Alright, may be " case closed " should of read " case dismissed for lack of evidence ", but i still consider Cornwells effort the best in pet suspect class of JtR book, which, admittedly, is attracting more dogs than CRUFTS. Cornwells book was engaging, original, but accessible, and has made a genuine effort to drag ripperology into the forensic age, which is damn sight more than most manage or try to do. If Sickert was a letter hoaxer, and thanks to Cornwells book there are compelling reasons to think so,then he deserves the slating he gets. A few years ago, a man called John Humble was jailed for hoaxing, but he was no Richard Sickert, so maybe Cornwell was right, and Sickert belonged to a class above suspicion or punishment. I hope Cornwell writes more JtR material, because its one of the few JtR books that i am likely to buy.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:12 AM
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The idea of Walter Sickert belonging to "a class above suspicion or punishment" seems rather weak to me. I would imagine Sickert's position in society to have been similar to that of Oscar Wilde and we know what happened to him.

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Old 10-01-2010, 01:18 AM
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Well Scorpio,

Its a tad unwise to label what would be the majority of ones readships as 'sick individuals' and question their morals.

There are many good people in this field, a fair few unsung, who have conducted great research which, ironically enough, aided Patsy so she can produce the base material for her book.

To insult them during interviews and documentary is not going to endear her in the field, especially as most do not have the same access to the media as she has and therefore cannot defend themselves (not that they need to) to the same masses.

Its not her book that p*ssed many off as such, it was the attitude and derogatory comments made about the field and those within it.

Bad form.

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Old 10-01-2010, 01:22 AM
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Hi Scorpio. Cornwell is one of the most if not THE most talented writer to tackle the subject, and it's her prose and presentation that makes her arguments so persuasive. But you have to understand that her facts and suppositions were all wrong. Virtually down the line, they were wrong. Walter Sickert isn't and never has been a Ripper suspect in the true sense.

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Old 10-01-2010, 01:54 AM
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I have to give Kudos to Cromwell ONLY in that it was her book that exploded the Ripper obsession within me, not bad for a cheap book bought in Tesco's by my Cornwell-fiction loving mother at 16.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:56 AM
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Absolutely. The biggest Ripper books of all time have been crank theories (Sickert, Royal Conspiracy, Diary) but God bless them, because there wouldn't be Ripperology as we know it today.

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Old 10-01-2010, 02:01 AM
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i thought i was reading about Swiss Cheese the theory seemed so full of holes
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I just remember thinking that even though at that point I had absolutely no other theories to go on that surely she had just confirmed he had written some letters rather than stabbed up a couple of ladies. The Uncle Jack one was even worse and that was a book I was soooooo anticipating as I live in the area the so called Ripper John Williams was from.

two terrible books that nonetheless sit amongst the other more credible creations on my bookshelf
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:00 AM
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I just remember thinking that even though at that point I had absolutely no other theories to go on that surely she had just confirmed he had written some letters rather than stabbed up a couple of ladies. The Uncle Jack one was even worse and that was a book I was soooooo anticipating as I live in the area the so called Ripper John Williams was from.

two terrible books that nonetheless sit amongst the other more credible creations on my bookshelf
Most areas will get there own ripper suspect eventually at the rate they show up.One of the latest suspects, who was a secret service agent no less, supposedly sleeps the big sleep in my hometown of Cheltenham.
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I don't even agree that she writes well. I admire her ability to earn money, though.
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