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  • John Bennett
    Premium Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1205

    #1

    September 24th Letter

    Can anybody help?

    As I do not have my 'Letters From Hell' about me at the moment, I'm wondering if anybody can produce a scan or transcription of this letter which was sent prior to the 'Dear Boss'?

    I understand it was all but ignored at the time, but does apear in Evans and Skinner's book.

    Any assistance greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    JB
  • Tom_Wescott
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 6999

    #2
    Hi John. I don't have a scan of that to put up. but I do recall Cornwell talking about this letter in her book and stating that where there's a blot of ink, it says 'Ripper' underneath. Personally, I would need someone totally unconnected to her to confirm this before I could even start to believe it.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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    • John Bennett
      Premium Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1205

      #3
      Thanks Tom,

      I don't believe I saw any reference to 'Ripper' on that letter myself.


      PS If anybody can help, just a transcription would do.

      JB

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      • Wolf Vanderlinden
        Sergeant
        • Feb 2008
        • 547

        #4
        Envelope:

        on her majesterys service
        Sir Charles Warren
        Commissioner of
        Police
        Scotland Yard
        Immediately

        Letter:

        sep 24 1888
        Dear sir
        I do wish to give myself up I am in misery with nightmare I am the man who committed all these murders in the last six months my name is so [drawing of coffin] and so I am horse slauterer and work at Name [blacked out] address [blacked out] I have found the woman I wanted that is chapman and I done what I called slautered her but if any one comes I will surrender but I am not going to walk to the station by myself so I am yours truly [drawing of coffin]
        Keep the Boro road clear or I might take a trip up there
        Photo
        [drawing of knife]
        of knife
        this is the knife that I done these murders with it is a small handle with a large long blade sharpe both sides

        Hope that helps.

        Wolf.

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        • Tom_Wescott
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 6999

          #5
          Hi John. No, you didn't see any reference to 'Ripper', that's my point. Cornwell said that in her tests the word 'Ripper' was written under the drawing of the coffin following 'yours truly'. I ain't buying it just yet.

          Thanks for the text, Wolf!

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • John Bennett
            Premium Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1205

            #6
            Wolf,

            Thank you, you're a star.

            Al the best
            John

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            • Cap'n Jack
              *
              • Feb 2008
              • 1497

              #7
              It seems obvious that the blacked-out sections were actually done for that very purpose, to black out essential detail; and then some of these being stylisied to attempt to disguise that fact.
              I would imagine it a simple task today - if one had the actual letter - to forensically peer into the blacked-out sections and discover the missing words.
              So I'd be on your mettle.

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              • Tom_Wescott
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6999

                #8
                That's precisely what Cornwell claimed she did, but fails to give us any details. And given her track record for accuracy, I'm inclined to take her story with a grain of salt until it's confirmed by an outside source.

                Yours truly,

                Tom Wescott

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                • Cap'n Jack
                  *
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1497

                  #9
                  Well, Tom, I got sauce and salt aplenty.
                  Which wound would you like it rubbed in?
                  The times are a'changing, Tom, stick your thumb out and you'll be mown down.

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                  • Sam Flynn
                    Casebook Supporter
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 13333

                    #10
                    Perhaps the blacked-out words read "Copyright: Croydon Advertiser", AP...?

                    Just trying to help
                    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                    • Tom_Wescott
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6999

                      #11
                      Maybe they read, "Did you get my letter on the 17th?"

                      Yours truly,

                      Tom Wescott

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                      • mac-the-kipper
                        Detective
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 108

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                        Maybe they read, "Did you get my letter on the 17th?"

                        Yours truly,

                        Tom Wescott

                        I didn't do it, a big boy did it and ran away.

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                        • Mr.Hyde
                          Inactive
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 203

                          #13
                          Love your nom de plume.Hadn't seen a post by you before.
                          Apologise for my "Jack the Kipper" recently.Wasn't plaigerisation,really.
                          Best,
                          Dave.

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                          • Chris
                            Inactive
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3840

                            #14
                            I'm expecting to be told, any time now, that the September 31st letter has been far too readily dismissed as a fake ...

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                            • Monty
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5414

                              #15
                              I'm expecting to be told, any time now, that the September 31st letter has been far too readily dismissed as a fake ...
                              That was in a documentary wasnt it Chris? I think it was one Jeff Leahys mate worked on.

                              Monty
                              Monty

                              https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                              Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                              http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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