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02-25-2012, 01:28 PM
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not made up
Hello Trade. Thanks.
Well, at least the person was not made up from whole cloth.
Cheers.
LC
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02-25-2012, 10:09 PM
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Sir Charles Warren
Hello All. And here is a link to the Quatuor Coronati lodge indicating its founders.
I did not recognise having ever seen that photograph of Sir Charles Warren.
Cheers.
LC
http://quatuorcoronati.com/history/founders/
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02-25-2012, 10:34 PM
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Chief Inspector
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Whoah,
Some seriously impressive facial hair there.
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allisvanityandvexationofspirit
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02-25-2012, 10:50 PM
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no monocle
Hello Stephen. Indeed. But where is the monocle?
Cheers.
LC
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02-26-2012, 08:44 PM
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Detective
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The PEF's obituary for Conder:
Quarterly Statement (April, 1910), Pages 93-96
by Palestine Exploration Fund
MEMOIR OF COLONEL C. R. CONDER, R.E., LL.D.
Dictionary of National Biography: Second Supplement (London: Smith, Elder &Co., 1912), Volume 1, Pages 401-402
CONDER, CLAUDE REIGNIER (1848-1910)
An report by Conder about that time he took Prince Albert Victor on a tour of Palestine:
Quarterly Statement - Palestine Exploration Fund, October, 1882, Pages 193-234
By Palestine Exploration Fund
TOUR OF THEIR ROYAL HIGHNESSES PRINCES ALBERT VICTOR AND GEORGE OF WALES IN PALESTINE.
Hurlbert and an Egyptian obelisk:
Egyptian Obelisks (London: Nimmo, 1885), Page 2
by Henry Honeychurch Gorringe
NEGOTIATIONS THAT LED TO THE GIFT AND ITS REMOVAL.
The first suggestion looking to the removal of an obelisk from Egypt to the United States was made by His Highness, Ismail, the Khedive of Egypt, at the time of the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869, to Mr. William Henry Hurlbert. In September, 1877, after the removal of the prostrate obelisk of Alexandria to England by Mr. John Dixon, Mr. Louis Sterne of London, a friend of Mr. Dixon, being in New York, informed Mr. Hurlbert, then editor of the New York World, that Mr. Dixon, through his relations with Egypt, could secure the gift to the United States of the standing obelisk at Alexandria, and that he would be glad to do this, and to undertake to remove it to New York, if the cost of the operation could be defrayed. Mr. Hurlbert requested Mr. Sterne to open a correspondence on the subject with Mr. Dixon, which resulted in an understanding that Mr. Dixon would secure and bring to America the standing obelisk of Alexandria, if the sum of fifteen thousand pounds sterling could be guaranteed to him. After consulting with Mr. Chauncey M. Depew and Judge Ashbel Green, Mr. Hurlbert put himself in communication with Mr. William H. Vanderbilt, and Mr. Vanderbilt, as the result of a single conversation on the subject, liberally agreed to guarantee the payment of the sum named by Mr. Dixon. This was at once cabled to London by Mr. Hurlbert. A congratulatory reply by cable was received from Mr. Sterne in behalf of Mr. Dixon. But a correspondence followed from which it soon appeared that Mr. Dixon relied upon Mr. Hurlbert to secure the gift of the obelisk through the government of the United States. This materially changed the character of the negotiation; but finding Mr. Vanderbilt most willing to stand by his liberal offer as long as might be necessary to secure the desired result, Mr. Hurlbert consulted Mr. Evarts, then Secretary of State, who cordially agreed to instruct the agents of the State Department to undertake the matter. At the instance of Mr. Evarts, a letter was accordingly written to him as Secretary of State by Mr. Henry G. Stebbins, then Commissioner of Public Parks of New York City, requesting him to open negotiations with the Khedive for securing the standing obelisk of Alexandria for New York City. Mr. Evarts, in a letter dated October 19, 1877, wrote to Consul-General E. E. Farman that, "in view of the public object to be subserved, you are instructed to use all proper means of furthering the wishes expressed in Mr. Stebbins' letter," a copy of which was enclosed. In a letter dated November 24, 1877, Mr. Farman wrote to Mr. Evarts as follows: "I fear, however, that there will be serious opposition to the removal of the obelisk from the city of Alexandria, so much, in fact, that although the Khedive might personally desire to gratify the wishes of the citizens of New York, he would not think it best to grant their request."
Puck (New York), Volume 6, March 17, 1880, Page 20
Puck (New York), November 27, 1878, Page 2
Puckerings
MR. HURLBERT, of the World, has often been advised to Hire a Hall. We are glad to see he has done it.
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02-26-2012, 10:21 PM
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Masonry
Hello Trade. Thanks for posting this.
When I read Professor Crofts' book, he could hardly believe that Hurlbert was, at the same time, making arrangements to bring the obelisk to New York AND "forging" "The Diary of a Public Man."
I am slightly embarrassed even to bring up matters Masonic, but they are there. (Coincidentally, I hope!)
Cheers.
LC
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02-27-2012, 12:42 AM
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Detective
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For Entertainment Purposes Only
Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal, 18 May 1892, Page 2
The Windsor Murder
Melbourne, Tuesday
Among the many remarkable features of the Windsor tragedy has been the number of extraordinary epistles that have been indited and addressed to all sorts of persons, from the Governor to the murderer, upon the grim subject. The Chief Commissioner, by the last English mail, was the favored recipient of one of these brilliant effusions. It purported to come from an individual completely in the confidence of the Royal family and all the authorities connected with the leading secret societies in London. He stated that Deeming was the tool of a plot inspired by H.R.H. the Prince of Wales, and assisted by other distinguished personages, to supplant religion throughout the world by freemasonry; also that Deeming was the authorised Australian agent of the conspiracy, and according to the writer has appeared here under various aliases, to wit, Marcus Clarke, George Darrell and Christie Murray; being, moreover, of rare literary talent, such works as "His Natural Life," "The Sunny South." and "Ned's Chum," being ascribed to his authorship. This very imaginative informant further goes on to state that the Prince of Wales has frequently visited Australia under the cognomen of Willig, and that Lord Carrington was a leading and most bloodthirsty member of the Mafia, having been frequently concerned in the secret poisoning of priests and other dignitaries of the church. Then the startling fact is announced that the Princess Louise is the Queen of the Mafia, of which Deeming was one of the most trusted emissaries. He is declared to be 'Jack the Ripper,' and is alleged to have no less a personage than the Prince of Wales as his active associate and accomplice in the atrocities of Whitechapel. The letter is written throughout in the style of printing, with the obvious object of disguising the identity of its writer. The Chief Commissioner is of opinion that the epistle is the product of a lunatic.
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02-27-2012, 12:53 AM
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Deeming
Hello Trade. Thanks for that.
I have always found it interesting that Deeming, in his "confession," was supposed to have done for the last two and was unaware of any other killings.
Cheers.
LC
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