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Hair Bear 10-27-2016 04:31 PM

Why Buck's Row?
 
Apologies if this subject has already been covered, but why would Nichols be in Buck's Row? If she wanted business surely she'd stick to the more populated Whitechapel Road. In that case, it could be argued that, rather than the theory that the Ripper came upon her on his way to, say, work, a la Charles Cross, she was actually escorted there.

Pcdunn 10-27-2016 05:39 PM

That's where speculation comes in...
 
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Originally Posted by Hair Bear (Post 397927)
Apologies if this subject has already been covered, but why would Nichols be in Buck's Row? If she wanted business surely she'd stick to the more populated Whitechapel Road. In that case, it could be argued that, rather than the theory that the Ripper came upon her on his way to, say, work, a la Charles Cross, she was actually escorted there.

Yes, you would think that, wouldn't you? Good question, Hair Bear.

I once asked something similar on another thread about Lechmere, and also asked why on earth, if Lechmere had left earlier than he'd said so he could find likely victims, would he bring one back to a street on his usual route to work to finish her off?

I was told, well, we have no idea how Lechmere and Nichols really met, and it doesn't really matter, anyway, as we do know what happened in Buck's Row. (Right, but to kill her right on his route to work--?)

The only thing that makes some sense to me would be the speculation that Polly had given up trying to turn tricks and was perhaps in Buck's Row looking for a sheltered place to try and sleep, when Lechmere came upon her and decided to get in a quick throat-cutting prior to work. (However, that idea isn't really supported by forensic evidence of the attack, in which she seems to have been upright, not sitting or lying down when attacked.)

What is your answer to your own question?

GUT 10-27-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hair Bear (Post 397927)
Apologies if this subject has already been covered, but why would Nichols be in Buck's Row? If she wanted business surely she'd stick to the more populated Whitechapel Road. In that case, it could be argued that, rather than the theory that the Ripper came upon her on his way to, say, work, a la Charles Cross, she was actually escorted there.


Seems most likely answer was she and her client went there.

Robert St Devil 10-27-2016 07:00 PM

Hello Bear.

SHADES OF DUTFIELD YARD. I,ve considered that it was Polly Nicholls leading Jack the Ripper to Mr. Brown,s Stableyard. Finding it locked, he may have murdered her regardless...

SCENES OF THE CRIME. I detect a subtle difference between the eviscerate murders of Chapman, Eddowes & Kelly and the other murders (possibly) attributed to Jack the Ripper. Their 3 murders required discovery. Someone had to go into a backyard, the dark recesses of square or an apartment. There was more ,publicity, with the murders of the other women. Someone was bound to ,trip over, their bodies.

John Wheat 10-28-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GUT (Post 397932)
Seems most likely answer was she and her client went there.

I agree Gut.

Cheers John

Abby Normal 10-28-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hair Bear (Post 397927)
Apologies if this subject has already been covered, but why would Nichols be in Buck's Row? If she wanted business surely she'd stick to the more populated Whitechapel Road. In that case, it could be argued that, rather than the theory that the Ripper came upon her on his way to, say, work, a la Charles Cross, she was actually escorted there.

Hi HB
I had brought it up when lech was first proposed as a suspect because as you imply, his route would take him down bucks row, not the main streets, where she was last seen.

That would mean either he left his main route to look for a victim or that she was already there. both seemed unlikely to me.

If it was lech, I think she may have already been their, maybe looking for a place to doze and he came upon her. I have a hard time envisioning him looking for a victim, going off the beaten path, on his way to work.

however, as was pointed out to me, he may have left his house earlier than he said to give him time to look around.

Pierre 10-28-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hair Bear (Post 397927)
Apologies if this subject has already been covered, but why would Nichols be in Buck's Row? If she wanted business surely she'd stick to the more populated Whitechapel Road. In that case, it could be argued that, rather than the theory that the Ripper came upon her on his way to, say, work, a la Charles Cross, she was actually escorted there.

Drinking?

kjab3112 10-28-2016 01:34 PM

She was last seen about half a mile further west on Whitechapel Road/High Street, Bucks Row/Durward Street runs parallel to the main road behind Whitechapel Station. To my mind it would suggest she'd picked up a John around the station and then sought a quiet place to seal the deal so to speak. Whether the client killed her (most likely) or she was found by e.g. a passing cartman can and will be argued. Each murder site is surprisingly close to major thoroughfares which would have been and still are busy round the clock

Paul

Abby Normal 10-28-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kjab3112 (Post 398103)
She was last seen about half a mile further west on Whitechapel Road/High Street, Bucks Row/Durward Street runs parallel to the main road behind Whitechapel Station. To my mind it would suggest she'd picked up a John around the station and then sought a quiet place to seal the deal so to speak. Whether the client killed her (most likely) or she was found by e.g. a passing cartman can and will be argued. Each murder site is surprisingly close to major thoroughfares which would have been and still are busy round the clock

Paul

agree that if it wasn't lech, this is the most likely scenario.

John Wheat 10-28-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Abby Normal (Post 398105)
agree that if it wasn't lech, this is the most likely scenario.

Unless there is anything that actually points to Lechmere which there isnt. It is the likely scenario.


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