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Old 11-17-2008, 01:16 AM
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Indeed - imagine what the Millers Court sign shown in the photo taken from Dorset Street would fetch now!!
I've got a piece of the true cross from the partition wall if anyone's interested
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Yes Gareth I'm interested! Why don't you throw a big holiday party at that luxe tower out by your place. Have us all over to view the artifact.

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The actual full-sized image of the demolition is dated but I don't have access to it at the moment. I think it is sometime in April. Jake will be your man for that one. The famous pair of photos by Leonard Matters were taken, I think, in late January of that year just before they came down. This would explain, for example, the fact that the first floor (in the English sense) windows of #27 have been taken out in the Matters shots.

The photo this detail comes from is considerably larger and was taken from a height in Brushfield Street, looking SE. In higher-res copies you can see the lamp in Millers Court and the remains of the western side, by that time largely reduced to foundations. The original image is also like a game of WHERE'S WALLY? because although it looks empty, there's actually over a dozen workmen hidden in the wasteland. You can sadly only just see a tiny, tiny fragment of #13 in the 1928 shot as it is almost entirely covered by fencing and walls.

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So the picture we are looking at now was taken by Leonard Matters or did I misunderstand? My question is that I wonder if whoever took the picture was concentrating on showing 13 Millers Court or if it was just a random picture?
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Hi Brenda. Matters had nothing to do with the demolition picture. Matters took the two famous photographs of the entrance to Millers Court with the rickety chair at the side.

The photo on this thread was showing the demolition of the block. It's a big, wide photo showing all of the demolition of that side of Brushfield Street and Duval Street, around half the length of it. The whole of Millers Court, let alone #13, occupies less than 1% of the full image. It's a photographic needle in a haystack.

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Brenda,

The wide photo is available in the Casebook's archive:

http://photos.casebook.org/displayim...album=6&pos=13
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Extending the pic a little may be useful
1 to 3 - the three houses on the right hand side of Millers Court
4 - the wall at the end of Millers Court
26 - the back of 26 Dorset Street
27 - the back of 27 Dorset Street

Compare this with part of the Goads Map of Millers Court
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Useful labels, Chris - thanks.

Before anyone jumps in, it's worth noting that Chris's numbering system doesn't refer to the house-numbers in Miller's Court itself!
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The actual full-sized image of the demolition is dated but I don't have access to it at the moment. I think it is sometime in April. Jake will be your man for that one. The famous pair of photos by Leonard Matters were taken, I think, in late January of that year just before they came down. This would explain, for example, the fact that the first floor (in the English sense) windows of #27 have been taken out in the Matters shots.


I'm looking at the picture of the front of the two buildings, #26 and #27, that Leonard Matters took in June 1928, according to the caption. The windows are already gone, at least in part on the upper floors, except for the two on the far right in #27. What prevented him from going into the passage? Was it already blocked or cut off from the public by this time? I'm just wondering why he didn't get closer and get the passage. Excuse my ignorance on this. Just doing a bit of wishful thinking here.
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Hi Celesta,

This is what Matters wrote in his book:

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Whether he took any more photos we don't know, hopefully he did and they are out there somewhere.

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