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Old 03-03-2017, 03:34 PM
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Ok I'll play.....

But let it be clear in my book A.N. Other is in front by a country mile, with daylight second.

First I believe the contemporary police suspects need to be cleared first, the police of the day had all the material we don't, so in that category..

Kozminski (whoever that was)

Tumblety (I'm one who is convinced he was a suspect, not convinced he was a ripper)

Druitt (what was that private information, why did his family think, but why did Macnaghten get so much wrong in the MM)

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Then if they were all cleared killers

Bury

Kelly

Deeming (if I can prove he was in England, and again what was in the autobiography he wrote in his last days)

Dr Cream

It seems to have become a trend to try and point the proverbial finger at witnesses and famous figures of the day, I suspect simply because they have names that can be used rather than being Mr(s) Unknown.
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:48 PM
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Ok I'll play.....

But let it be clear in my book A.N. Other is in front by a country mile, with daylight second.

First I believe the contemporary police suspects need to be cleared first, the police of the day had all the material we don't, so in that category..

Kozminski (whoever that was)

Tumblety (I'm one who is convinced he was a suspect, not convinced he was a ripper)

Druitt (what was that private information, why did his family think, but why did Macnaghten get so much wrong in the MM)

Leather Apron


Then if they were all cleared killers

Bury

Kelly

Deeming (if I can prove he was in England, and again what was in the autobiography he wrote in his last days)

Dr Cream

It seems to have become a trend to try and point the proverbial finger at witnesses and famous figures of the day, I suspect simply because they have names that can be used rather than being Mr(s) Unknown.
Thanks GUT

Again, I know there may be some question about deeming whereabouts but CReam was in prison, so he's ruled out no?
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I would say at the time of Mary Kelly's death, the killer was living in Dorset street, maybe the same for the others.
I would say that he made contact with Mary Kelly in daylight hours Nov 9th, having lost his chance during the hours of darkness, because of her picking up Astrakhan man.
Who the man was I have no idea, apart from him having prior knowledge of Kelly.
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Hi Richard
Why such a nebulous idea? A man who lived in Dorset street? Please elaborate.

BTW I agree that Mary and her killer were probably known to each other.
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Thanks GUT

Again, I know there may be some question about deeming whereabouts but CReam was in prison, so he's ruled out no?
Probably... but then again...
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First Tier
A.N.Other, Jacob Levy, Aaron Kosminski,

Second Tier
Druitt, Tumblety, Kelly

Third Tier
McCarthy (no idea why - just generally suspicious of him)

Fourth Tier
All the rest...all no chance

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Henry Gawen Sutton.
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:07 PM
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First Tier
A.N.Other, Jacob Levy, Aaron Kosminski,

Second Tier
Druitt, Tumblety, Kelly

Third Tier
McCarthy (no idea why - just generally suspicious of him)

Fourth Tier
All the rest...all no chance

Cheers

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Hi Dave

I'm not convinced that anyone could say there is no chance Bury couldn't be the Ripper. A proven wife murderer with a near identical M.O. to Jack. Strangulation followed by post mortem mutilation.

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Hi Dave

I'm not convinced that anyone could say there is no chance Bury couldn't be the Ripper. A proven wife murderer with a near identical M.O. to Jack. Strangulation followed by post mortem mutilation.

Cheers John
And,of course, he may have confessed: "Jack Ripper is at the back of this door;" "Jack Ripper is in this seller [sic]."
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Old 03-04-2017, 03:49 AM
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And,of course, he may have confessed: "Jack Ripper is at the back of this door;" "Jack Ripper is in this seller [sic]."
Good point John.

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Well what did Packer (or was it the Police) have against Mr Lusk?
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