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Old 08-29-2017, 03:51 PM
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for me the simplest explanation is the best.

Earlier that evening too many jews interrupted the crazy psychopath from carrying out his ritualistic mutilations - so he had to find someone else to kill.

He almost interrupted by yet more Jews - Levy - "Look there, I don't like going home by myself when I see those characters about,"

On his way home he does what many serial killers do, he blames other people.
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for me the simplest explanation is the best.

Earlier that evening too many jews interrupted the crazy psychopath from carrying out his ritualistic mutilations - so he had to find someone else to kill.

He almost interrupted by yet more Jews - Levy - "Look there, I don't like going home by myself when I see those characters about,"

On his way home he does what many serial killers do, he blames other people.
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The simplest explanation is that the (apparently) anti-semitic graffiti was already there before the Ripper jettisoned the apron.
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I'm sorry but I still don't get the whole Jewish thing. He was interrupted by people who happened to be Jewish but was there something specific related to Jews that caused them to interrupt him? He could have just as easily been interrupted by Gentiles. And if he was enraged at the Jews the GSG really doesn't seem to reflect that but comes across more as a mild rebuke. Hardly worth taking a chance to write.

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The simplest explanation is that the (apparently) anti-semitic graffiti was already there before the Ripper jettisoned the apron
we wont know, but i find have to credit them that were there at the scene (busily scrubbing out the graffiti) with a little bit of trust when they saw connection
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And if he was enraged at the Jews the GSG really doesn't seem to reflect that but comes across more as a mild rebuke
A detective once told me criminals occasionally do odd things just after committing crimes and leaving the crime scenes. Often leaving clues. Possibly from exhilaration.

We will never know why he wrote this, (if he did), he may have been enraged. He may have been having a little joke as he took a piss.
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The simplest explanation is that the (apparently) anti-semitic graffiti was already there before the Ripper jettisoned the apron.
Hi Sam, trust the skies over Wales are still full of dragons and sunshine today.

In isolation, yours is a not unreasonable observation, but in the context of the evening's other events (and the series moreover), your very sensible interpretation is reduced to one more co-incidence in a series of co-incidences. And please keep in mind the issue of blame which is the active thematic of the missive: blame for the murders - and I believe, a reference to the anti-Semitic rioters with their chant of "no Englishman" post-Chapman, who had blamed the Jews.

As Reid it (probably) was, who so aptly put it, in 1889:

“He lives in Whitechapel, of that I am confident. His knowledge of the locality is astonishing". Indeed, JTR well knew his neighbourhood's raw nerves and exposed sinews - even if he had to dirty his hands to expose them himself, literally.

PS - the 'already there' interpretation, may also need to overturn Long & Halse .

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A detective once told me criminals occasionally do odd things just after committing crimes and leaving the crime scenes. Often leaving clues. Possibly from exhilaration.

We will never know why he wrote this, (if he did), he may have been enraged. He may have been having a little joke as he took a piss.
Well that's probably as good an explanation as any.

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The simplest explanation is that the (apparently) anti-semitic graffiti was already there before the Ripper jettisoned the apron.
Absolutely

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I've mentioned this before but if the message was written by Jack (and no we can't know either way) could he have written it directly after leaving Berner Street? Maybe he stopped for a fag to try and calm down after being interrupted in his work? Maybe he got even more angry? Maybe he wrote the message in anger? Maybe later he felt angry that his 'message' might go unnoticed so he decided to leave the cloth as a 'signpost'? Maybe this explains the time gap? Depositing the cloth was an after thought?

Sorry about the 'maybe' overload there chaps
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