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Old 09-20-2008, 02:37 PM
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Hi,
Anna mention that the term 'The horrors of drink' derived from a old East End saying.
This being the case, and Mjk was reported to be from Wales then Ireland, I wondered if that particular remark would have been common in those parts.?
I appreciate that Mary may have inherited that expression over the previous three years, but it could also indicate that she was more not telling the truth about the recent past.
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Anna mention that the term 'The horrors of drink' derived from a old East End saying.
It wasn't, Rich. The phrase crops up frequently in novels, temperance pamphlets and non-fiction books during the 19th Century, in Britain as well as America.

It was certainly not peculiar to the vocabulary of the East End working class, as this line of dialogue from the distinctly posh Anthony Trollope's The Claverings (1867) shows - spoken as it is by Lady Ongar: “He brought himself to such a state that nothing but brandy would keep him alive, and in which brandy was sure to kill him - and it did kill him. Did you ever hear of the horrors of drink?”
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:55 PM
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The phrase crops up frequently in novels, temperance pamphlets and non-fiction books during the 19th Century, in Britain as well as America.
Hi Sam

Too true. Did you hear the one about the vicar and the drunk, who tells the vicar that he can't pass a pub without going in. The vicar tells him that when he passes a pub he should say to himself 'Get thee behind me Satan'. The next time the vicar sees the man he's dead drunk and he asks him if he said 'Get thee behind me Satan' The man says 'Yes, and he got behind me and kicked me in'.

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p.s. What's American for 'vicar'?
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p.s. What's American for 'vicar'?
... 'viautomobile'
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